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Amazon just sent me an email letting me know that I can order actual Author's copies through my KDP dashboard. These are not the formerly available proof copies with the big gray watermark across the cover. These are actual author copies that could be resold at local bookstores, conventions etc. They cost the printing costs plus a finally affordable shipping cost (if you get the 3-5 day shipping anyway).

This is the cost for me for 50 copies of a 120 page paperback novella

Items (50): $114.00
Shipping & handling: $23.00
Total before tax: $137.00
Estimated tax to be collected: $11.50
Order total: $148.50

Feel free to add how much say IngramSpark, or anyone else, would cost--I'd be interested in finding that out too
 

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I got the email, too:

We have made updates to your account that allow you to order proofs and author (wholesale) copies of your paperbacks on KDP.

Proofs allow you to review a physical copy of your draft paperback prior to publication. Learn more here.
Author copies are copies of the live version of your paperback that you can order from Amazon. Learn more here.

When you order copies of your own book, you pay just the printing costs plus shipping and applicable taxes. Unlike CreateSpace, KDP proof and author copies for the UK and the rest of Europe are printed and shipped from within Europe.
By publishing a paperback on KDP, you can reach more readers through Amazon websites in the US and Europe, as well as manage your print and eBook publishing from one website. In addition, you can use the KDP website in English, Spanish, German, French, Italian, Portuguese or Dutch. Learn more here.


Best,
The Kindle Direct Publishing Team


I don't use KDP print, so have nothing to play with.
 

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Monique said:
Are you sure they don't have a watermark or "author copy" printed on the cover?
These are specifically called out as Wholesale Author Copies and are now a separate order button from what are now called Author Proofs (these do have the watermark). Prior to this change, there was only one choice for supposedly at cost ordering...now there are two different choices under the ellipses on the author dashboard.

Supposedly this is beta program for select publishers for which I received a specific email about an hour ago. I'm a nobody so far, with only 2 paperback sales, but I did complain to their CS about the lack of author's copies and added the fact that I would discount my own book, then order it with Prime to get around their ridiculousness then raise the price back up...which is exactly what I did.
 

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This is good news. I was going to publish with KDP because I figured they'd get this feature eventually, but they kept giving me unspecified error when trying to upload the PDF while CreateSpace did the same file just fine. Never did work out what the issue was. Oh well, maybe next book.
 
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Guy Riessen said:
Feel free to add how much say IngramSpark, or anyone else, would cost--I'd be interested in finding that out too
For Ingram, presuming black and white interior, a regular size (like 5.5 x 8.5), standard service, and cheapest shipping (commercial ground):

Items (50): $130.00
Handling: $1.99
Shipping: $15.38
Tax: $11.55
Total: $158.92

5x8 would be about $1 cheaper, 6x9 would be about $1 more (both due to shipping cost changes).
 
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And just for info purposes, here is Blurb.com's :)

50 copies: $148.00
Shipping (Standard): $65.99
Tax: $16.05 (only applies in 8 states for them; but since yours is one, I added it in)
Total: $230.04
 

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Anma Natsu said:
For Ingram, presuming black and white interior, a regular size (like 5.5 x 8.5), standard service, and cheapest shipping (commercial ground):

Items (50): $130.00
Handling: $1.99
Shipping: $15.38
Tax: $11.55
Total: $158.92

5x8 would be about $1 cheaper, 6x9 would be about $1 more (both due to shipping cost changes).
Oh yeah, my quote is actually for a 5x8. I forgot to mention that :)
 
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Guy Riessen said:
I did complain to their CS about the lack of author's copies and added the fact that I would discount my own book, then order it with Prime to get around their ridiculousness then raise the price back up...which is exactly what I did.
I'm absolutely certain that this would prompt a positive reaction from Amazon, especially as I don't believe you are the only one to do it.

Great news.
 

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I tried to order a proof copy from kdp of a book a couple of days ago.

The shipping was around 6 GBP, which meant the proof would cost me over 11 GBP.

So I just changed the price of the paperback down to 4.99 GBP and ordered a copy using Prime (free shipping), then jacked the price back up.

This is silly! Why am I paying for shipping when I can simply order a copy of Amazon for free postage and next day delivery? Why aren't they making it cheaper?

(I have not been offered "author" copies yet)
 

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Does everyone in the US who uses KDP Print see this option? (I print through CreateSpace, so of course I don't see it on my Dashboard.)
 

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I sell a lot of paperbacks through local craft fairs. This is great news to me. I turned my books into KDP paperback early on, just because I do not believe that Amazon does ANYTHING without having a darned good reason. I am waiting to be notified. I am hopeful it won't take too long to happen.
 
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notjohn said:
Does everyone in the US who uses KDP Print see this option? (I print through CreateSpace, so of course I don't see it on my Dashboard.)
I'm in Greece/UK/USA and I'm not getting that option (yet). It is probably being rolled out on server updates.
 

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C. Gold said:
This is good news. I was going to publish with KDP because I figured they'd get this feature eventually, but they kept giving me unspecified error when trying to upload the PDF while CreateSpace did the same file just fine. Never did work out what the issue was. Oh well, maybe next book.
You could try importing the book into KDP Print from Createspace and see if that works. https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G201952960
 

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I'd also be interested in this, but my hard copies are through Createspace. I assume that Amazon will simply consume CS completely and stop the charade. I've been tempted by FB ads for something called "48 Hour Books."
 

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Deke said:
I'd also be interested in this, but my hard copies are through Createspace. I assume that Amazon will simply consume CS completely and stop the charade. I've been tempted by FB ads for something called "48 Hour Books."
At least CS still offers author copies on the same terms as before. There is a shipping charge, but there always has been. It's hard to tell without knowing the weight of the books, but it seems smaller than the one KDP Print is charging, or am I wrong about that?

Why does something CS has been doing for years need such a gradual rollout at KDP Print? The whole mess will make me cling to CS until it ceases to exist.
 

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Bill Hiatt said:
At least CS still offers author copies on the same terms as before. There is a shipping charge, but there always has been. It's hard to tell without knowing the weight of the books, but it seems smaller than the one KDP Print is charging, or am I wrong about that?

Why does something CS has been doing for years need such a gradual rollout at KDP Print? The whole mess will make me cling to CS until it ceases to exist.
Not sure if you're right-we posted kdp, Ingram and blurb. If you have cs then the cool move would be to post the information for 50 approx 120page book (or something similar) so everyone could make an informed choice :)
 

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I'm confused about this author's copies thing; never has CS ever printed "author's copy" across the cover -- or anywhere else -- when I order mine. Thank goodness, too, because I hand sell them, and that would look tacky.

Now, proofs... Those have "proof" printed diagonally across the very last page. Still nothing printed across your cover.

I'm still using CS (and always will, at least until they tear it away), so maybe this is a KDP thing? If so, one more reason to avoid KDP paperbacks (for me, anyway).
 
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