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http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6663967.html

Brigham Young Library Tests Kindle as ILL Option for Faculty
Amazon rep, in contrast to some other company statements, gives verbal OK to lending devices
Norman Oder -- Library Journal, 6/10/2009


* Three Kindles purchased
* Used for titles too new/popular for ILL
* Lesson: contact Amazon directly re permission

Faculty members at Brigham Young University (BYU), Provo, UT, have a new alternative to interlibrary loan (ILL): the Amazon Kindle. The Harold B. Lee Library has purchased three ebook readers for the pilot, expecting the items chosen to be either very new or very popular titles-titles that in some cases the library has been unable to get through ILL.

Brigham Young is one of the first academic libraries to lend Kindles, and while Amazon has told LJ lending is impermissible, its customer service reps have provided more variable advice.

An Amazon rep gave a verbal OK to BYU's plan, but would not provide a written response, Gerrit van Dyk, the library's document delivery services manager, told LJ. The rep said that the Terms of Use was sufficient.

While the Restrictions section in the Terms of Use say no to those who want to "sell, rent, lease, distribute, broadcast, sublicense or otherwise assign any rights to the Digital Content or any portion of it to any third party," each such case involves a for-profit model, unlike that of libraries.

Also, added van Dyk, a Terms of Use clause states "Digital Content will be deemed licensed to you by Amazon under this Agreement unless otherwise expressly provided by Amazon"-and, he noted, Amazon was unwilling to tailor the agreement. His advice to other libraries: contact Amazon themselves.

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The pilot began a month ago, so only a few titles have circulated. Books on the Kindle book cost $9.99-$14.99, which is less in most cases than borrowing from another library, which can cost closer to $30, he said. (The Kindle costs $359.) The loan period is three weeks, with two renewals possible if there is no queue of Kindle requests.

"Most of the faculty like the device for leisure reading (which is what we expected)," van Dyk reported. "Scholarly work is complicated by the lack of pagination and the difficulty in archiving annotations for personal use. Those who have used the device say they would check out another title through the Kindle if available in the future."

Library staff load only the text requested and the Kindle User Guide to the devices. When the Kindle is returned, the old text is removed. "What makes Amazon's system so attractive to libraries is that libraries can retain access to content on the web through their library or department Amazon account," van Dyk observed. "In this way staff can quickly load content to a selected device for circulation."

"So far we are limiting the service to faculty only but this is just to keep the demand down," van Dyk wrote on his Shaping Libraries blog. "If it takes off we will buy more devices and open it up to other university populations (staff, grad students, etc)."
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That's an interesting article. I would have never thought of it, but that's not a bad idea. I just hope that the people who use them are careful.
 

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ohh. The library is what introduced me to ereaders. My area library had the Rocketbook. Hopefully this checkout system will introduce other reader to the technology like the library system's use of ereaders did for me.
 

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Hey, folks, I am the author of two Kindle thrillers that have been doing pretty well:

CLAWS for 80 cents
http://www.amazon.com/CLAWS-ebook/dp/B0024NL6QS

The Colorado Sequence for 80 cents
http://www.amazon.com/The-Colorado-Sequence-ebook/dp/B002AVVQGE

And I discovered this evening that I could check out a Kindle from the university library where I work. As a lot of folks have posted how they'd like a test-run of a Kindle before shelling out 400 bucks, I thought a topic dedicated to this idea might be helpful.

Here's the link to the Kindle check-out page at my library:

http://www.lib.ncsu.edu/learningcommons/ebooks.html

Anybody else have any experience checking out a Kindle from your library, or know a good library system in your area that allows it?

Post about it here.

Thanks so much, everyone!
 

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I'm going to merge this post with the existing thread on the topic.

 

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Brigham Young Univ has stepped back on their Kindle interloan library. It makes sense but honestly, it seems like lending out a Kindle would only lead to more sales.

I wonder it the Hotels offering the Kindle loan service will have to change their policies too? Wouldn't Amazon be more on board with a not-for-profit library than a for-profit hotel? Maybe the difference is the make-up the potential customer. People staying at high-end hotels have more $$$ than college professors.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,705310939,00.html

BYU suspends Kindle program over legal concerns
By Marc Haddock

Deseret News

Published: Saturday, June 20, 2009 10:12 p.m. MDT

BYU's Harold B. Lee Library is suspending a short-lived pilot program using Amazon.com's electronic book, the Kindle, as a substitute for interlibrary loans.

The program, which has been available to faculty members for about a month, created some buzz on library-related blogs for breaking ground in the uncertain area of lending books on the Kindle.

Although BYU had verbal permission to proceed with the program, Roger Layton, communications manager for the library, said the program is on hold until the university has a clearer picture of Amazon's legal concerns.

"We are playing it safe," Layton said. "Two people here said we have verbal permission. But if we don't have it in writing, that's a different thing. We don't want to do anything that Amazon doesn't completely agree with."

Under the pilot program, when a faculty member at BYU requested a book that was not part of the library's collection but was available in the Kindle format, the library purchased a digital copy of the book from Amazon and downloaded it onto one of the nine Kindle devices the library owns to lend. The Kindle, which is shaped like a book but only about one-third of an inch thick, is more convenient than a laptop and has a 6-inch-wide display.

Layton said the Kindle can be a great timesaver over interlibrary loans, which require contacting a library that has the title available and arranging to have it shipped to BYU, then shipping it back after the patron has returned the book.

"We are pretty fast on the interlibrary loans, but it still takes days," Layton said. "With the Kindle, we can have a new book available for someone in a matter of minutes."

The library announced the pilot program to faculty members June 5, but a story in the Library Journal last week put the program in the spotlight.

"Hotdog, someone has started a much needed plan to get e-books part of the ILL program," Sue Polanka, head of reference at Wright State University in Dayton, Ohio, wrote in her blog, "No Shelf Required." But she warned, "Verbal permission was given from Amazon, nothing in writing. Highly recommended to speak with Amazon before you delve into loaning out Kindles."

The Lee Library pursued the program after Gerrit van Dyk, the library's document delivery services manager, was told by a representative of Amazon that the Terms of Use agreement prohibiting distributing Kindle material to third parties applied to for-profit uses, not for public or university libraries.

With more attention focused on the library's pilot program, the university decided Tuesday to suspend it until it has Amazon's approval in writing.

"We are not comfortable doing the thing until Amazon is 100 percent behind it," Layton said.
 

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I wonder it the Hotels offering the Kindle loan service will have to change their policies too? Wouldn't Amazon be more on board with a not-for-profit library than a for-profit hotel? Maybe the difference is the make-up the potential customer. People staying at high-end hotels have more $$$ than college professors.
Amazon didn't have anything to do with this decision. They have given verbal permission. BYU is choosing to wait until they have it in writing.
 
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