Ouch. 
"Cloud" email went Poof! (MobileMe in my case)
I lost all my unused special offers.....
Yesterday at some point, my MobileMe email account went ZAP, POOF, GONE.
All 7 years of it..... All 8600 messages (that i didn't need, but still).
At this point, apple can't get them to restore and isn't telling me why it happened either...... I'm Not having fun, when I think of the sheer number of tidbits i lost it can make me puke. Legal, medical and educational stuff first.... Then all the receipts I kept stashed there, all the various login names.... Everything. Gone.
So, the advice of the day is make sure that you have your cloud email pulling down in an app somewhere for backup. I do have mine thru mid-September, but I lost my home internet for awhile and had to go 100% cloud, then i had a computer version problem and hadn't gotten around to sorting it out.... And now it is too late.
Yesterday at some point, my MobileMe email account went ZAP, POOF, GONE.
All 7 years of it..... All 8600 messages (that i didn't need, but still).
At this point, apple can't get them to restore and isn't telling me why it happened either...... I'm Not having fun, when I think of the sheer number of tidbits i lost it can make me puke. Legal, medical and educational stuff first.... Then all the receipts I kept stashed there, all the various login names.... Everything. Gone.
So, the advice of the day is make sure that you have your cloud email pulling down in an app somewhere for backup. I do have mine thru mid-September, but I lost my home internet for awhile and had to go 100% cloud, then i had a computer version problem and hadn't gotten around to sorting it out.... And now it is too late.
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For the record.... I'm still reeling from this.Elk said:Ouch.
Ouch is right. Then the computer that has most of the mail up until Spetember started randomly shutting down tonight.... Kinda not my day. I threw the kid off of it and am attempting a disk image backup.
Sorry TraceyC, I know I'd be upset too if that happened to me.
Of course. This is dreadful.TraceyC/FL said:For the record.... I'm still reeling from this.
Another morning hasn't helped..... Sigh....Elk said:Of course. This is dreadful.
But please, make sure if your store important stuff in your email that you have a backup - even if you have it in the cloud, have an app that pulls it and stores it local on your computer.
I accept full responsibility for not having the chunk of mine done that i need, but learn from this please - don't totally trust the cloud!!!
Tracey,
if you wind up trying to pay someone to reclaim the info on the hard drive, don't take the 1st offer too seriously....
hardrive crashed -- no backup tons of important pictures on it. First recovery offer $2000; we asked for the drive back- immediately price dropped to $1200. We gave it a week and said again no thanks, price drop to $800. We were seriously considering this even if it was pricey, but 3 weeks later (hubby got called out of town) They came down to $400. We went ahead and paid it figure it was stupid not to have backups in the 1st place and that deserved consquences...
That was about 5 years ago, 2 years ago my father in law goes thru the same thing - even to the exact price drops - at a different recovery company.
We haven't gone to cloud backup yet- it seems expensive and kinda iffy (a friends had alot of movies and pics on some cloud server, they cancelled his contract w/out warning and want to charge him $300 to return his stuff) but I make sure to dump stuff to another hard drive every 6 weeks or so~
I do feel your pain! Best of luck on the recovery~
Michelle
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edit - Ouch, I really did think I had read everything closely - but I still didn't realize you were talking about cloud backup in the first place~
mea Culpa - but still - best wishes in getting all your stuff back!
if you wind up trying to pay someone to reclaim the info on the hard drive, don't take the 1st offer too seriously....
hardrive crashed -- no backup tons of important pictures on it. First recovery offer $2000; we asked for the drive back- immediately price dropped to $1200. We gave it a week and said again no thanks, price drop to $800. We were seriously considering this even if it was pricey, but 3 weeks later (hubby got called out of town) They came down to $400. We went ahead and paid it figure it was stupid not to have backups in the 1st place and that deserved consquences...
That was about 5 years ago, 2 years ago my father in law goes thru the same thing - even to the exact price drops - at a different recovery company.
We haven't gone to cloud backup yet- it seems expensive and kinda iffy (a friends had alot of movies and pics on some cloud server, they cancelled his contract w/out warning and want to charge him $300 to return his stuff) but I make sure to dump stuff to another hard drive every 6 weeks or so~
I do feel your pain! Best of luck on the recovery~
Michelle
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edit - Ouch, I really did think I had read everything closely - but I still didn't realize you were talking about cloud backup in the first place~
mea Culpa - but still - best wishes in getting all your stuff back!
I'm not sure why this had to be split - the biggest relevant part of it was the first line, I lost all my unused Special Offers when my cloud email got zapped.... I'm quite upset about that, it's not like i can get them back either.
But since it is here now, make sure you save your CLOUD email somewhere - no matter what it is, gmail, MobileMe, yahoo, hotmail, whatever.
Do NOT just keep it in the cloud.
But since it is here now, make sure you save your CLOUD email somewhere - no matter what it is, gmail, MobileMe, yahoo, hotmail, whatever.
Do NOT just keep it in the cloud.
Tracey--
sorry to hear about your cloud email being zapped--but the thread you posted in is about special offers being offered, not your technical issue. There was nothing in your original post about specific offers or questions about a specific special offer. Together with the responses, it was appropriate that it be split into its own thread. This way you can discuss it without sidetracking the special offers thread!
Good luck!
Betsy
sorry to hear about your cloud email being zapped--but the thread you posted in is about special offers being offered, not your technical issue. There was nothing in your original post about specific offers or questions about a specific special offer. Together with the responses, it was appropriate that it be split into its own thread. This way you can discuss it without sidetracking the special offers thread!
Good luck!
Betsy
Hi Tracey,
Losing data stinks!
Since you were using MobileMe (I do too), I'm assuming you have a Mac of some sort.
Can you access all the emails from your Mail app in the dock?
Do you have a good Time Machine backup?
FWIW, I use the cloud a lot and haven't had any trouble.
Best of luck to you, and I hope you can retrieve the data somehow.
Losing data stinks!
Since you were using MobileMe (I do too), I'm assuming you have a Mac of some sort.
Can you access all the emails from your Mail app in the dock?
Do you have a good Time Machine backup?
FWIW, I use the cloud a lot and haven't had any trouble.
Best of luck to you, and I hope you can retrieve the data somehow.
Actually the first line says, "I lost all my unused Special Offers". Which is related, if you lose the emails then you lose the offers. Period.Betsy the Quilter said:Tracey--
sorry to hear about your cloud email being zapped--but the thread you posted in is about special offers being offered, not your technical issue. There was nothing in your original post about specific offers or questions about a specific special offer. Together with the responses, it was appropriate that it be split into its own thread. This way you can discuss it without sidetracking the special offers thread!
Good luck!
Betsy
I was just curious as to why it was singled out and the cancer posts got to stay. And I'm not unsympathetic in that area at all, it just hit a bit close to home as my Dad has myeloma - uncurrable blood cancer, and was able to get in an experimental chemotherapy program and is now hanging on outside of the normal life expectancy because of it. Although the side affects of the chemotherapy have basically left him bedridden.
Anyway, my main thing was, I lost the special offers when i lost the emails AND to convince everyone to back up their email. DON'T rely on the cloud. I lost a significant amount of correspondence related to my divorce trial in October.... And at $220/hr I'm not excited about asking them to resend them.....
I didn't have home Internet from September-late January, so nothing was syncing and storing locally (which is a setting to store a copy locally). When i got it back, life was still in turmoil post divorce, and I wasn't up to dealing with a computer issue to get it back online.hamerfan said:Hi Tracey,
Losing data stinks!
Since you were using MobileMe (I do too), I'm assuming you have a Mac of some sort.
Can you access all the emails from your Mail app in the dock?
Do you have a good Time Machine backup?
FWIW, I use the cloud a lot and haven't had any trouble.
Best of luck to you, and I hope you can retrieve the data somehow.
Unfortunelty, that computer is running Tiger and time machine doesn't work with it (part of the problem above) and I was going to update it - the disks are sitting right here- but then they announced Lion... So gee, why not wait. oh but now you have to be at Snow Leopard to go to Lion so I have to update anyway... My Daughter has been using the thing for her virtual school so i haven't been able to get it done.
Really, life is chaos and it's just GONE as of now.
MobileMe support is working on it supposedly, but the case shows closed online and the guy didn't answer my email last night..... My mom accidentally deleted her MobileMe email and they got it back for her after over 30 days! Which is why I'm not sure what is going on in my case....
I'm so sorry about your father. I will add him to my prayer list. They really are doing great things in the experimental chemo programs!TraceyC/FL said:And I'm not unsympathetic in that area at all, it just hit a bit close to home as my Dad has myeloma - uncurrable blood cancer, and was able to get in an experimental chemotherapy program and is now hanging on outside of the normal life expectancy because of it. Although the side affects of the chemotherapy have basically left him bedridden.
Anyway, my main thing was, I lost the special offers when i lost the emails AND to convince everyone to back up their email. DON'T rely on the cloud. I lost a significant amount of correspondence related to my divorce trial in October.... And at $220/hr I'm not excited about asking them to resend them.....
Write to KCS about the SOs they might give them to you anyway.
Personally, I am Leary of the whole cloud computing thing. I'd rather burn my data to DVDs, Blu Rays, or whatever the physical media of the time ends up being. Any of these physical mediums can go in a safety deposit box, which is hacker proof for one thing, and has no moving parts inside of it to fail over time.
Here's my slant on why the corporates want us to go to the cloud. First, it keeps the consumer buying newer, faster, more powerful hardware in the way of phones, computers, tablets, TVs, interface boxes, game consoles, and so on, to access the content none of us owns on the cloud. Second, it eliminates the need to produce physical content, which won't need to be warehoused to merchandised. Third, and more importantly, with music, video, software, books, games, and so on, on the cloud and the devices getting more powerful and faster, there will eventually be no need to download content to the device. It will all be streamed to the device and the owner will have finally lost complete control over the content they purchased. It all but shuts down illegal downloads and pirating of content. Since the owner's device will be constantly streaming, the owner will never have access to the entire file that makes up the content. Streaming will be the ultimate form of digital rights management. There will be people who will hack the devices and the clouds, but it will become much harder for the average person cheat the system, which will reduce the amount of bootleg content over time.
Finally, cloud computing and streaming will give the corporations what they have wanted all along. Complete access to the information and habits that make up each and everyone of our lives. They will know more about us then we will know about ourselves. It all seems pretty insidious, and paranoia is like blood in that a Little bit of either goes a long way, but I wouldn't be surprised to see what I have mentioned above come about in less than ten years.
I hope I'm wrong, I'd love to be wrong, but sadly I think I will be proven right.
Gene
Here's my slant on why the corporates want us to go to the cloud. First, it keeps the consumer buying newer, faster, more powerful hardware in the way of phones, computers, tablets, TVs, interface boxes, game consoles, and so on, to access the content none of us owns on the cloud. Second, it eliminates the need to produce physical content, which won't need to be warehoused to merchandised. Third, and more importantly, with music, video, software, books, games, and so on, on the cloud and the devices getting more powerful and faster, there will eventually be no need to download content to the device. It will all be streamed to the device and the owner will have finally lost complete control over the content they purchased. It all but shuts down illegal downloads and pirating of content. Since the owner's device will be constantly streaming, the owner will never have access to the entire file that makes up the content. Streaming will be the ultimate form of digital rights management. There will be people who will hack the devices and the clouds, but it will become much harder for the average person cheat the system, which will reduce the amount of bootleg content over time.
Finally, cloud computing and streaming will give the corporations what they have wanted all along. Complete access to the information and habits that make up each and everyone of our lives. They will know more about us then we will know about ourselves. It all seems pretty insidious, and paranoia is like blood in that a Little bit of either goes a long way, but I wouldn't be surprised to see what I have mentioned above come about in less than ten years.
I hope I'm wrong, I'd love to be wrong, but sadly I think I will be proven right.
Gene
I just used Thunderbird to sync up all my gmail so it's hopefully on my machine. I'm hoping gmail doesn't go poof on me though since it's what I use for almost all my email traffic.
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