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It's happening, folks. The Amazon page that explained how to easily migrate from Createspace to KDP print now redirects here, to this much more general explanation:

https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G202059560

Meanwhile, there was an input to tell Amazon to switch from Createspace to KDP just by entering your CS ISBN, and that seems to have gone.
 

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I don't know, Inconsequential. I've sent a support request to ask for further advice. I suspect it means they'll be handling it given the scale of the move, but I had been hoping for a bit more time to get things sorted and, as per David Gaughran's recent advice, make the move ahead of the rush.
 

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inconsequential said:
So what does this mean? That we can no longer migrate our books from Createspace to KDP, or that they're going to be doing it for us?
I heard on FB that Createspace is telling authors that that it is moving to KDP Print.
 

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Funny. I predicted this a couple of years ago and was told by numerous authors I was crazy, that it would never happen. Just a lucky guess on my part, but it seemed common sense to me from a business perspective. Also figured Author Central would also eventually be wrapped into KDP or vice versa, putting all Amazon author services under one roof (maybe even Audible, but that would likely be the last move, in my guess).
 

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The problem is that KDP Print's expanded distribution does not englobe Australia, Bookdepository, etc., as far as I know, which is a shame.
 

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You'd think Amazon would want people to initiate the process themselves rather than having to batch-migrate everyone who's left themselves.

Perhaps Amazon has noticed people migrating to Ingram and figures changing everybody over quickly might hold some people through inertia.
 

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Phoenix61 said:
Seems it really is official. CS is no longer allowing new manuscript uploads according to this post...

http://www.selfpublishingforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&p=5125#p5125

Nothing so far on the CS community announcements, though. It doesn't surprise me, sad though. Ugh, now I have to transfer stuff!
I clicked the "add a title" button and it was allowed. I have various books that are loaded through there but not sent through yet. I'm not sure what I'm going to do about them.
 

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Just log into CreateSpace and there's a big banner at the top to do the migration. I just went through it. You link both accounts, hit a button, and done.

And, of course, they [expletive]ed mine up. I have books that didn't make it over and unpublished versions that linked to my ebooks instead of the published versions. (Mostly because I had, for example, a color version and a black and white version of some of my titles, so probably not an issue most of you will face but I am not happy right now to have them completely drop well-selling books.)
Yeah. I'm worried about this. Did you have any drafts? I have several drafts sitting in there and I'm wondering what's going to happen to them. I can load the bulk of them in the next two weeks and send them through. I would like to see if that's possible but I just ... can't even.
 

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Ah, shoot! I'd been dithering because I didn't want to move to KDP, but I also didn't want to buy ISBNs or pay Ingram's upload fee (assuming I wouldn't get lucky and get a freebie). My print sales simply don't make enough to justify those costs.

I suspect Bill Hiatt has it right--that Amazon saw all the folks migrating to Ingram and wanted to circumvent that loss, if possible, by forcing the move to their side.

I just called my sister (8 pm EST US). Most of her sales are print and she was working toward moving it all to Ingram. She was on the CS site this morning and the notice wasn't there then.
 

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I let them batch move my 12 over just now.  Seems to have been about as seamless as I've seen any IT-based migration.  My big question is what will they do with the amounts CS owes me in GBP and EU since I haven't hit the magical 100 number for either to get a check cut.

That being said, if I can find a free setup coupon for IS, I'm going to start migrating my paperbacks over to IS and have them join my hardcovers, starting with the ones for whom I own the ISBN.
 

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I am not seeing the banner and CS just let me start the process of creating a new title (didn't follow through, but the regular setup screen still appears after clicking "Add New Title").

Maybe they are migrating accounts in batches?
 

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8:30 p.m. EST....I'd seen the banner on CS at 8 pm, logged out, come here to see what was being said, went back....and now there's no banner. Guess I had my chance... :p

ETA...I futzed around, went to a few odd pages, came back to the dashboard, and the banner was back. Dunno, but guess I'll move and decide about Ingram later. Probably much later.

 

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So...I moved. Hit the link, pushed the button to agree, signed into my KDP account when it said to, clicked a few "next" as it finished each section, then sat and read the news on my iPhone for 5 minutes while all 6 print titles moved over. The 6 print versions appear on the bookshelf with an ASIN that's the CS 10-digit ISBN. All the titles that don't have a print version now show empty boxes urging me to start one.  Can't see any button to order copies but I'm assume it's there somewhere. The metadata on the book pages still show CreateSpace as the publisher. Total time involved for 6 titles, maybe 10 minutes.

Easy peasy.  Color me surprised!
 

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Addendum to my last.  Two hours after batch migrating my 12 paperbacks from CS to KDP, all sales figures past and present appear in my KDP dashboard, as do all paperback royalties owing, including the GBP and EU royalties that haven't been paid since 2015 because I didn't hit the magic 100 quid/euro figure (yeah, I don't sell much paperbacks outside the US).  So far, all is good in my universe.
 
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