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Does Amazon provide a guideline, however vague or precise, as to the difference between erotica and pornography?

If so, where can I find it?

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tkmurphy said:
I think it was a Supreme Court Justice who said about porn, "I know it when I see it." :p
Yeah, just like an art neophyte.

An erotica author told me the simplest difference is that erotica doesn't have to have sex in it. In porn it is all about the sex and describing it.

The same can be said for movies. Although, honestly, the prudish nature of the media really is annoying. Nudity and sex is bad, but decapitations and disembowelment's are fine.
 

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CB Edwards said:
Erotica is when you use a feather, porn is when you use the whole chicken. Incoming............
Lol. That was the other quote she used. I'd completely forgotten it.
 

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tim290280 said:
Yeah, just like an art neophyte.

An erotica author told me the simplest difference is that erotica doesn't have to have sex in it. In porn it is all about the sex and describing it.

The same can be said for movies. Although, honestly, the prudish nature of the media really is annoying. Nudity and sex is bad, but decapitations and disembowelment's are fine.
If you label something as erotica and it doesn't have sex in it, expect some backlash.

It's a fine distinction. Porn is definitely about the sex scenes. Erotica may give equal or more weight to the story.
 

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Asher MacDonald said:
If you label something as erotica and it doesn't have sex in it, expect some backlash.

It's a fine distinction. Porn is definitely about the sex scenes. Erotica may give equal or more weight to the story.
Yeah, you would expect there to be sex. But that's why I like that definition, it isn't about the sex but the erotic content. Things can be erotic without the need for sex, just the hint of sex.

I haven't got my notes from the writing workshop on me, so I can't remember specifics, but the example was used of an author who wrote erotic fiction who never described any penetrative sex. The books were definitely sexual and erotic but it was all about getting the reader hot. I've read sexually charged scenes before that didn't even have the characters touch.
 

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tim290280 said:
Yeah, you would expect there to be sex. But that's why I like that definition, it isn't about the sex but the erotic content. Things can be erotic without the need for sex, just the hint of sex.

I haven't got my notes from the writing workshop on me, so I can't remember specifics, but the example was used of an author who wrote erotic fiction who never described any penetrative sex. The books were definitely sexual and erotic but it was all about getting the reader hot. I've read sexually charged scenes before that didn't even have the characters touch.
I get all that. Thing is, for what we do, we stick labels on our work through the tags. If you label it as erotica and don't include explicit sex scenes, I think many readers will feel cheated. I think a different label makes more sense -- "sensual romance" or something.

Anyway, it's the readers who have the final say. If something is labelled erotica and doesn't include explicit sex and they buy it and like it, why then the label was correct.
 

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The difference between erotica and porn is the same as the difference between making love and having sex.  Two people in bed, one of them could be making love, the other just having sex.  Likewise if you showed them both the same piece of writing one of them could see erotica and the other porn.
 

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tim290280 said:
Nudity and sex is bad, but decapitations and disembowelment's are fine.
Shhh now, we mustn't rock the boat.

I have a friend who goes on and on about how there is too much sex in the public arena. He complains that it's everywhere, from ads for fast food to the wealth of pron on the net. What's really silly is that he loves Tarantino films and lists Pulp Fiction as his favourite film of all time.
 

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Herc- The Reluctant Geek said:
Shhh now, we mustn't rock the boat.

I have a friend who goes on and on about how there is too much sex in the public arena. He complains that it's everywhere, from ads for fast food to the wealth of pron on the net. What's really silly is that he loves Tarantino films and lists Pulp Fiction as his favourite film of all time.
:D

Yes. Lets pretend sex is just something that doesn't happen. Ever. Anywhere. Because we are thinking of the children.
 

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Interesting thread -

I would say that erotica is written for women, and porn is written for men.

So the sex, when it happens, is written to appeal to the READER'S gender.
 

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Harper Alibeck said:
I was going to say that it's porn when a guy *writes* it, erotica when a woman writes it LOL.
Um - in case you haven't noticed, what women find erotic is usually different from what men find erotic.

Just saying. :-X
 

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I think the line between erotica and porn isn't the explicitness, but the thrust (if you'll excuse the double entandre) of the story. If it's all about the sex, it's porn. If plot and character growth get equal or greater coverage, it's erotica.

My erotic romance has four (I think) explicit sex scenes in a 45,000 novel. Not the predominant thread, but because it is fantasy and magic is entwined with sex, it is integral to the rest of the story. I don't think it is porn at all. Of course some Supreme Court justice might disagree. ;)
 
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