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Getting past the hurdle of little to no reviews

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It seems like a lot of blogs will not feature your book when running a promotion if it has few or no reviews. I've been adamant that nobody immediately related to me leave a review of my books on Amazon, despite how much they want to (sorry, Mom). So my question is: what do you do to get over that initial hurdle to start generating reviews and garnering attention?
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There's a group on Goodreads - I think it's called 'author connections' or something similar, where you can offer up your book, or an ARC, and reviewers sign up to read it.

I've just been doing it for my books, although I have to say that after over a month only half have actually posted their reviews, and some only put them on Goodreads, rather than Amazon.

Or you could organise a blog tour. I found that the easiest way of getting quite a few reviews in a shorter amount of time.
There are a few options. My favorite is doing a Member Giveaway at LibraryThing. Harvey also offers a Book Discovery day for newer titles here at KB. The third thing is to contact book bloggers and reviewers directly to offer up your title and ask for reviews.

It's tough to get over this hurdle, I agree.
i feel your pain, man. Been pushing my first book since May 2012. 6 reviews. Done giveaways, two promos here. I don't think there's any real answer. It's just dumb luck.
It is hard, but I try to send out my book to book bloggers right when it's new in hopes of getting some reviews. It may take a while, but they do eventually come in. And if you send out to a lot of book bloggers and don't get any reviews over time, there's probably a problem with the book. (Needs new cover, blurb, or tighten up the writing.)
This is an obvious one, but I want to throw it out there because sometimes people overlook the obvious. In fact, I've had clients overlook this before....

Make sure and ASK for reviews. Ask in your book, on your blog, on social media, ask your email list, etc. I'm sure most authors already do this but some don't.
Yep. This has, without a doubt, been the biggest hurdle for me as I, too, told friends and family not to leave reviews. I'm slowly picking reviews up on Amazon and Goodreads, and I'm pleased to say there isn't anything lower than a four-star review, but...yeah, I feel your pain.

I'm finding book bloggers are helping, as are select promotions (I have Beacon Part I still in select until the end of the month) but I really chafe at the minimum-reviews bar so many sites set.
Free giveaways always result in reviews for me (if you give enough away).  I gave away about 10K of TLJ on 12/26 and have since gotten 40 reviews.
Paul G said:
Make sure and ASK for reviews. Ask in your book, on your blog, on social media, ask your email list, etc. I'm sure most authors already do this but some don't.
This. I've got a note in the end matter of my books, asking people to leave a review if they liked the book.

The freebie promos can also boost your review numbers, just because of the number of books out there.
NOTE THOUGH: Some readers snap up FREE books without reading the blurb or preview to determine if it's something they might like. And if they are subsequently disappointed they're not shy about letting you know :)
This has been a struggle.

Unfortunately the only thing I've found to help is forfeit a KDP Select day or two, giving away a thousand or so and then crossing your fingers that a few reviews trickle in.
It's tough! The group Sarah was talking about is Making Connections. I put my book on there but it's taken a while for requests to come. I got a batch of five about a month later, two already posted reviews. I've been on a begathon with blogs. Those are the toughest. The ones that do agree usually have a couple month turn around. It's just tough. I'm also starting to wonder if pushing for reviews is the way to go. I tend to only leave reviews for things I really love. I wonder if you let it happen organically if in the long run you end up with a better rating.
Reviews are tough, particularly with shorts (as is my case). I have two reviews on B&N and one on Goodreads, but Amazon is a big ol' donuthole.
Brian Spangler said:
Unfortunately the only thing I've found to help is forfeit a KDP Select day or two, giving away a thousand or so and then crossing your fingers that a few reviews trickle in.
I guess this is sort of the reason for my question though. Even running free days, many of the blogs will not pick you up to promote those free days unless you have a minimum number of reviews. So right now I get a couple hundred downloads dut to the super cool awesome blogs that help me out (high fives all around), but still, seems like I'm missing something.
Matthew Milson said:
It seems like a lot of blogs will not feature your book when running a promotion if it has few or no reviews. I've been adamant that nobody immediately related to me leave a review of my books on Amazon, despite how much they want to (sorry, Mom). So my question is: what do you do to get over that initial hurdle to start generating reviews and garnering attention?
The review question has puzzled me for years. My books get hundreds of ratings/reviews on Goodreads with 3.5 averages, but so far just several dozen on Amazon. Freebies for each audience, but one clearly doesn't mind sharing their feelings...
Brian Spangler said:
This has been a struggle.

Unfortunately the only thing I've found to help is forfeit a KDP Select day or two, giving away a thousand or so and then crossing your fingers that a few reviews trickle in.
Agreed. Use two Select days to get some reviews, then do another Select giveaway or two after you have the reviews and the free sites will pick you up.

While it's free there are some FB pages you can post on. Here's one: http://www.facebook.com/groups/reviewseekers/
SEAN H. ROBERTSON said:
The review question has puzzled me for years. My books get hundreds of ratings/reviews on Goodreads with 3.5 averages, but so far just several dozen on Amazon. Freebies for each audience, but one clearly doesn't mind sharing their feelings...
Amazon is quite bug-gy to review on.

I quite often find that when I've written a great big long one it then loses everything I've written and asks me to start again.

Vastly annoying. I know its bad practice but I only leave reviews on there if requested now. Though it's kind of swings and roundabouts - I'd always rather see what Goodreads readers are saying about a book than amazon customers for some reason!
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So I'm an indie writer with 2 books published, both in select.

After a decent initial 2 day promotion being picked up by various free book sites, I gave away 1500 copies. If I had known that was EXCELLENT I would not have pulled the promotion and tried again a month later. O MY GOD. Next promotion I didn't submit to the sites and I got 500 downloads. Over three days instead of 2.

Then with this latest one, I have zero reviews, and haven't been picked up by anything fancy despite submitting everywhere. Behold - 3 days now and less than 150 downloads.

But this is still the best way to break out. It still is. I mean, I'm just using my intuition - but basically we have two choices. Go Select or try your luck on other platforms.

I am almost certain that every sale I have made has come from one of two places:

1. People I know online / offline
2. Select promotion word of mouth

I haven't had any other sales that I can see aside from this. That's on Amazon. With all the other sites doing a small percent on Amazon, do you really think I would try my luck there? Some random person is going to run across my random story for 2.99 and buy it? Why??

Eventually, when I have tonnes of titles and am making success through Amazon, then I will switch over gradually to other platforms. Otherwise, I'm going to select it. Even if I only make 100 freeloads each promotion, that's 100 chances I didn't have before for a review. Every three months every book gets  another chance, and that's another chance for reviews. Get the reviews, and that's a chance for free sites or whatever, and then you build from there.

Obviously, you can't not be prolific. You got to be a hardcore obsessed writer to get ahead here.

Now, I don't know if Amazon will suddenly kill Select, when that happens we just keep going with the best that is available to us, but right now, I think that is the best.

That's just my thinking.
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A few observations, for what they're worth:

- Promotional tactics are great, but your underlying philosophy is key. Most authors starting out focus on selling books. What they should be doing (IMHO) is building their readership. Some folks think the two are the same thing, but they're not. You have no way at all to directly control how many books you sell. If we did, we'd all be millionaires. But you can control how many individual people you reach out to, how often, and in what manner, and you have a much larger array of tools for doing that nowadays than authors once did (social media, email lists, sites like Goodreads, etc.). Some number of these readers will convert to true fans who will be eager to buy your future works. At some point, the number of fans will achieve a critical mass that will push your sales beyond the "hobby" threshold into the "holy crap this is real money" realm. And giving away freebies, of course, is a fantastic way of getting your book into the hands of potential readers.

- If you focus on building your readership and you interact with people, ask - nicely and gently! - for what you want. If someone compliments you on your book, thank them and then ask if they'd please consider leaving a brief review wherever they bought it. I emphasize the "brief" part because many readers are intimidated by the thought of leaving a review, or don't want to take the time, thinking they have to write a long book report. They don't. "Just write what you thought of the book in a sentence or two, like you'd tell a friend if you only had a minute before you had to head off somewhere." That's gotten a lot of people over the hump.

- Blog reviews are nice, but I've found that the best thing about them is the blurbs you can pull out of (positive) reviews to use for the sorts of "reviewers say" plugs you can put on the book's detail page on the retail sites, your web site, marketing materials, etc. They're very transient and don't usually convert to many sales, so I wouldn't bang your head against the wall over them. Sure, ask for them - exposure is always good - but don't lose sleep over it. Reader reviews on product pages (or sites like Goodreads), by contrast, stick with your book so future prospective readers can see them, and the vast majority of readers take a gander at them.

- Oh, and while I think most people have this firmly in mind these days, NEVER pay for a review...  ::)
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Andrea Harding said:
Amazon is quite bug-gy to review on.

I quite often find that when I've written a great big long one it then loses everything I've written and asks me to start again.

Vastly annoying. I know its bad practice but I only leave reviews on there if requested now. Though it's kind of swings and roundabouts - I'd always rather see what Goodreads readers are saying about a book than amazon customers for some reason!
Andrea, that's true about the bugginess of reviews on Amazon, as several readers have shared with me via social media that they had to repost reviews a few times. Come to think of it, my social media fans have been the most loyal when it comes to my review requests. They seem to really love helping an author that they can engage with at any time. Food for thought. ;)
Here is how I work it:

-About 3 months prior to releasing my book, my throw a giveaway up on Goodreads.  Book bloggers often look for material to review that way, so if you don't have a huge network in place, thats an excellent place to start generating one.  Interested parties aren't shy, they're going to track you down and ask (nicely) for an ARC.  I have a policy of never saying no to new faces.  I generally begin compiling a list of interested parties and let them know the exact DATE I will have their copy for them.

-On my website (if you don't have a website, use your blog) I put a notice that ARC of my novel are available for review.  You'd be genuinely surprised how many bloggers randomly can find your work.

-I find the blogs that work in my genre and contact them myself -- this is the best time investment prior to launch.  It takes me normally a full work day (10 hours) to e-mail a bunch.  You won't hear back from everyone, so cast a wide net!  

The bloggers are usually the first reviews up on Amazon.  If you can secure 10 solid blogs that like your book and those 10 blogs leave favorable reviews, you're well on your way to being able to court those sites to publicize your books.  

Then, ultimately, it's about keeping your list for later use.  I only approach bloggers who really enjoyed my book, obviously, but the process begins again so the list keeps growing.  It makes the future releases that much easier.

Good luck!  

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