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Anyone have any sound reasons for spending a lot of promotion time on Google+? I created an account a while ago, but didn't do much with it. Any success stories or tips about using it? Thanks!
 

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Anyone have any sound reasons for spending a lot of promotion time on Google+? I created an account a while ago, but didn't do much with it. Any success stories or tips about using it? Thanks!
You mentioned on another thread that you've promoted on FB's YA pages.... how do you do that? I don't use my personal page for book stuff, so all I have are author pages, and I don't think you can really "do" anything from those.
 

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I like Google+ about 100% more than Facebook.

As part of my circles, I have 546 in "sci-fi", over a thousand under "science" and another 2000 or so that I have no idea who they are. (This is besides my writing groups)

I posted about my new book to everyone but the writers (I don't believe in spamming writers with new releases - I'm pretty sure that's NOT why they're in the writing group :) )

As far as I know, this has brought no sales at all.  ::)

However, the people that are in these groups have been a great source of entertainment and information regarding my sci-fi. Nothing like having over a thousand nerds at your fingertips when you need help with something!


 

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My goal for this year is to put Google+ to better use. I think FB is pretty pointless now, thanks to their pay to play scheme. On G+, random strangers add me to their circles all the time. Plus, the addition of Communities offers a lot of opportunity to connect with other people who love your genre, and I'm thinking Hangouts might be pretty fun if you've got a good fan base. I've read that G+ is the fastest growing social media site, though there seems to be some debate whether this title actually belongs to G+ or Pinterest.

For 2013, I really think I'm focusing my social media efforts on Goodreads and G+ and putting Twitter and FB on the back burner.
 

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Thanks everyone!

Jena H said:
You mentioned on another thread that you've promoted on FB's YA pages.... how do you do that? I don't use my personal page for book stuff, so all I have are author pages, and I don't think you can really "do" anything from those.
Jena, I have two FB accounts. My personal one and one under my pen name. I have administrator rights to my author page from both. On my pen name account and on the page, I "like" YA pages, then put up promotional status updates on those pages where allowed and where I see others doing so. I also try to contribute in some way (helpful links, etc.) I haven't been doing that too long, so I can't say it has gotten me sales yet. However, I am starting to get "likes" on my promotional status updates. So, we'll see. For an example, this is my pen name FB wall (not the author page) https://www.facebook.com/kea.alwang.5 I have a whole bunch of groups I've "liked" there. Hope that helps.
 

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This thread is as quiet as Google+. Nuff said.

Sorry but yeah - it doesn't seem to be that busy on that. It's all facebook and twitter.
LOL...BUT G+ is so easy to use, I automatically do it. I'm not sure how many people pay attention to it. The last Rafflecopter I ran I asked for a follow to G+ and got a bunch - but it's really hard to keep people segregated into their group, so I only ever do that with one set of "followers" at a time so i know what circle to put them in.

My circles are growing, but the one I'm actively building is a book blogger circle. That one will be a nice marketing tool once it's built up properly. I only have about 44 people in it now, but it's not hard to get new followers if you use the Raflecopter to get them to add you.
 

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Join some of the communities that are around your book's interest, see if its ok to promote there (some communities don't like it) and promote / join in some of the discussions.

I started a ScienceFiction community and I know I've sold at least 3 copies from my activity there.
I've been promoting some ya'll books there when I catch your promotion tweets :)

Some communities i take part in:

Science Fiction Community: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/115072163006416889573
SFR Community: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/113062601619047682207
Kindle Talk: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/104912102486652397907
Speculative Fiction: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/112515101312869340641
Indi readers/writers: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/113896050662378734315
 

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I am on it, but rarely.  I don't spend nearly as much time there as I do Facebook or Twitter.  I have mostly found Google+ interesting for meeting and networking with other writers.
 

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Join some of the communities that are around your book's interest, see if its ok to promote there (some communities don't like it) and promote / join in some of the discussions.

I started a ScienceFiction community and I know I've sold at least 3 copies from my activity there.
I've been promoting some ya'll books there when I catch your promotion tweets :)

Some communities i take part in:

Science Fiction Community: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/115072163006416889573
SFR Community: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/113062601619047682207
Kindle Talk: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/104912102486652397907
Speculative Fiction: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/112515101312869340641
Indi readers/writers: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/113896050662378734315
Corinne has it right.
 

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It gets me sales. I have 665 people following me, I follow 300+. We use Google Hangouts to videotape the Indie Authors show for the Hangout Networks.

I belong to three different writers' groups over there. One is small and private and concentrates on self publishing. Another is mainly traditional authors exploring social media and marketing, another is a large writing group.

I belong to another group for writers who are Christians.

I recently mentioned I was running a book free, and I had several email me back that they were down loading, would read it, and leave me a review.

Most of my contacts on Facebook are friends from a large dues-paying writers' association I belong to, most of the ones on Google+ are strangers I met there through common interests.
Twitter is mostly readers.
I use each form of social media to reach a different group for different purposes, because that is what works for me, and what I'm comfortable with.
I don't get offended if people unfollow me on any of these platforms. I don't keep track (I had to go look quickly to see my Goggle numbers as I don't pay attention).

Shoot, my previous free run I mentioned on Google+ an Australian pastor complained, because I said I would be forced by my "publisher" to take the book off free eventually, and he accused me of lying since I'm self-published. I explained I have a possible book deal in the works (because of the movie) and yes, they would force me not to give it away free. I then blocked him because I'm offering something for free that has value, and I don't care to argue about my "integrity" as an author.
 

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I've bought 2 books that I learned about through Google+, but from KB I must have bought 20 or so.
There are some good discussions on G+ if you can avoid the trolls and the "I like SiFi" posts.

Coincidentally I had a brief exchange with an author there about his time travel book. Turned out it was PaulLev and we had previously been involved in a thread on time travel here in the Cafe.
 

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cekilgore said:
Join some of the communities that are around your book's interest, see if its ok to promote there (some communities don't like it) and promote / join in some of the discussions.

I started a ScienceFiction community and I know I've sold at least 3 copies from my activity there.
I've been promoting some ya'll books there when I catch your promotion tweets :)

Some communities i take part in:

Science Fiction Community: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/115072163006416889573
SFR Community: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/113062601619047682207
Kindle Talk: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/104912102486652397907
Speculative Fiction: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/112515101312869340641
Indi readers/writers: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/113896050662378734315
I'm in the Indie Readers group.
 

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I joined G+ a while back and then lost interest - but since Xmas I discovered communities and now I'm excited! FB makes it harder and harder to get updates from pages in your follower's stream. Plus it's impossible to find anything that's been posted in a page or group that's quite busy. Communities is like a forum without the setup hassle, they are easy to run and easy to join, and as other's have said, they encourage a converstation, not just mindless spamming of buy/dowload/like/tag my latest book/post/epic/free book.

I think communities may be the end of FB. Google does a lot of stuff wrong - but they've got communities very, very right. I just set up a new one on self-publishing and it's already growing :)
 

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Well, all-righty-then! I'm going to dive in and give it a shot. I'm sure I'll see you all in some of the community groups! Thanks so much for the info.
 
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