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Growing up in 1959 vs. Growing up in 2009
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Growing up in 1959 vs. Growing up in 2009
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Scenario: Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.
1959 - Vice principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car, and gets his own shotgun to show Jack.
2009 - School goes into lockdown, the FBI is called, Jack is hauled off to jail, and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors are called in to assist traumatized students and teachers.
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Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.
1959 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2009 - Police are called, SWAT team arrives, and arrests Johnny and Mark. They are charged with assault and both are expelled even though Johnny started it.
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Scenario: Jeffrey won't sit still in class, disrupts other students.
1959 - Jeffrey is sent to the principal's office and given a good paddling. Returns to class, sits still, and does not disrupt class again.
2009 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. School gets extra state funding because Jeffrey has a disability.
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Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1959 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2009 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist.
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Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1959 - Mark shares aspirin with the school principal out on the smoking dock.
2009 - Police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is searched for drugs and weapons.
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Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.
1959 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.
2009 - Pedro's cause is taken up by local human rights group. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that making English a requirement for graduation is racist. U.S. Civil Liberties Association files class action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.
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Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover Independence Day firecrackers, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, and blows up an anthill.
1959 - Ants die.
2009 - Homeland Security and the FBI are called and Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. Teams investigate parents, siblings are removed from the home, computers are confiscated, and Johnny's dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.
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Scenario: Johnny falls during recess and scrapes his knee. His teacher, Mary, finds him crying, and gives him a hug to comfort him.
1959 - Johnny soon feels better and goes back to playing.
2009 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces three years in federal prison. Johnny undergoes five years of therapy.
Growing up in 1959 vs. Growing up in 2009
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Scenario: Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.
1959 - Vice principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car, and gets his own shotgun to show Jack.
2009 - School goes into lockdown, the FBI is called, Jack is hauled off to jail, and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors are called in to assist traumatized students and teachers.
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Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.
1959 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2009 - Police are called, SWAT team arrives, and arrests Johnny and Mark. They are charged with assault and both are expelled even though Johnny started it.
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Scenario: Jeffrey won't sit still in class, disrupts other students.
1959 - Jeffrey is sent to the principal's office and given a good paddling. Returns to class, sits still, and does not disrupt class again.
2009 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. School gets extra state funding because Jeffrey has a disability.
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Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1959 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2009 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist.
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Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1959 - Mark shares aspirin with the school principal out on the smoking dock.
2009 - Police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is searched for drugs and weapons.
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Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.
1959 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.
2009 - Pedro's cause is taken up by local human rights group. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that making English a requirement for graduation is racist. U.S. Civil Liberties Association files class action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.
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Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover Independence Day firecrackers, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, and blows up an anthill.
1959 - Ants die.
2009 - Homeland Security and the FBI are called and Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. Teams investigate parents, siblings are removed from the home, computers are confiscated, and Johnny's dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.
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Scenario: Johnny falls during recess and scrapes his knee. His teacher, Mary, finds him crying, and gives him a hug to comfort him.
1959 - Johnny soon feels better and goes back to playing.
2009 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces three years in federal prison. Johnny undergoes five years of therapy.
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Love those, and it's so true.
A couple years ago at our local school, an elementary kid brought in one of those gag shock gums, and was suspended ten days for violating the school's weapons policy.
Common sense isn't so common anymore.
Can you imagine having your entire adolescence preserved on the Internet forever via social networking sites and youthful stupidity? Seriously.
1959: Mary unknowingly kisses a boy her friend likes. She loses the friend for a while, but eventually they both move on.
2009: the friend impulsively creates a website, "Mary is a £#@$&" full of embarrassing photos, which is the first google result for her name for the next few years, making it nearly impossible for Mary to find a job post-graduation.
I've actually gotten two - TWO - separate mass emails from friends asking for help in situations like this. (they were each asking for help on behalf of other people.) How crazy is that?
1959: Mary unknowingly kisses a boy her friend likes. She loses the friend for a while, but eventually they both move on.
2009: the friend impulsively creates a website, "Mary is a £#@$&" full of embarrassing photos, which is the first google result for her name for the next few years, making it nearly impossible for Mary to find a job post-graduation.
I've actually gotten two - TWO - separate mass emails from friends asking for help in situations like this. (they were each asking for help on behalf of other people.) How crazy is that?
Since we tend to glamorize the nostalgic past....
1959 as I remember it: One of the boys lives in fear of the other one for several years, and the bully grows up to be a beer-swilling wife-beater -- but let's only whisper about that amongst ourselves.Andrew Neudecker said:Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.
1959 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2009 - Police are called, SWAT team arrives, and arrests Johnny and Mark. They are charged with assault and both are expelled even though Johnny started it.
1959 as I remember it: A child with a complex learning disability is summarily classified as "retarded" and put into remedial classes, eventually either drops out of school or if lucky gets to go to vocational school, never becoming functionally literate.Scenario: Jeffrey won't sit still in class, disrupts other students.
1959 - Jeffrey is sent to the principal's office and given a good paddling. Returns to class, sits still, and does not disrupt class again.
2009 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. School gets extra state funding because Jeffrey has a disability.
1959 as I remember it: Pedro drops out of school by age 16, gets unskilled labor jobs for the rest of his life, never becoming functionally literate in English.Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.
1959 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.
2009 - Pedro's cause is taken up by local human rights group. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that making English a requirement for graduation is racist. U.S. Civil Liberties Association files class action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.
1959 as I remember it: Mary is, in fact, a sexual predator, and either successfully hides her fling with Johnny, or if they are found out, she is quietly let go from her current job and is able to move to another school system and get a job, never making the news and nobody ever talking about it openly.Scenario: Johnny falls during recess and scrapes his knee. His teacher, Mary, finds him crying, and gives him a hug to comfort him.
1959 - Johnny soon feels better and goes back to playing.
2009 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces three years in federal prison. Johnny undergoes five years of therapy.
My 1950's memories jibe with Nogdog's.
D*mn, why weren't any of my female teachers sexual predators?NogDog said:Mary is, in fact, a sexual predator
Nogdog That's how I remember it too.
swolf sexual predators were there back than only the boys didn't reported it to adults, they bragged about it to their friends " doing it with an older woman."
swolf sexual predators were there back than only the boys didn't reported it to adults, they bragged about it to their friends " doing it with an older woman."
That's still pretty much the way it rolls now. Yeah, it's a double standard but I don't see it going away, pretty much ever.tessa said:Nogdog That's how I remember it too.
only the boys didn't reported it to adults, they bragged about it to their friends " doing it with an older woman."
A girl who does it is a slut. The boy? He's a stud.That's still pretty much the way it rolls now. Yeah, it's a double standard but I don't see it going away, pretty much ever.
Human sexual behavior-and attitudes-reduced to four letter words.
The one man I've known who admitted to being sexually abused by a female pedophile - I mean, that's what we're talking about here, right? Not affairs with boys who have sailed through puberty early, and thus the "only" weirdness is the inherent power differential between an adult and an adolescent? - has pretty much had it ruin his life.
Perceptions are definitely different. I think, in some ways, it might be harder to feel like you're obligated to brag about something terrible that happened to you.
Perceptions are definitely different. I think, in some ways, it might be harder to feel like you're obligated to brag about something terrible that happened to you.
sorry this should have been teenage boystessa said:swolf sexual predators were there back than only the boys didn't reported it to adults, they bragged about it to their friends " doing it with an older woman."
Good post NogDog.
Despite everything, I do believe that as a society we have moved forward in a good direction. And yes, there is a price to pay for it.
Despite everything, I do believe that as a society we have moved forward in a good direction. And yes, there is a price to pay for it.
I don't find any of those particularly funny, nor do they ring true to me, although I don't actually "remember" what things were like in 1959. And as a parent of 2 children with ADHD, I find the description of the "Jeffrey" scenario terribly offensive. (And no, my kids' schools do not get any extra funding due to the fact that they have a disability.)
Folks, I am going to put my mod hat on and lock this thread and take a minute to discuss it with my fellow mods. While I appreciate that it was meant to be humorous, I feel that the humor is quite mean spirited and has the potential to be harmful and hurtful, as dpinmd has noted.
Edited to add: my fellow mods agree, all that needs to be said has been said and thus, this thread is staying locked.
Thanks,
Leslie
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Edited to add: my fellow mods agree, all that needs to be said has been said and thus, this thread is staying locked.
Thanks,
Leslie
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