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I just purchased Harry Potter 6 & 7 from Amazon. They were each under $3.50. If anyone is interested.
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Well, it looks like I may have to give a very humble apology. My insistence that Amazon would never allow an illegal copy to get uploaded to their system may be wrong. I no longer see the JKR Kindle books on the Amazon site. I don't know how someone could have done this (I even got the normal email from Amazon listing the purchase and charges). I'm stumped.

Steve
They are there still but now they say Not Yet Available.
You can no longer buy these two books (they are listed as "not yet available") which I suspect is an interim step to removing the catalog entries completely. It seems that, as many of of us suspected, these were illegal copies which posted illegally.

L
Changed again. Amazon now has the books back but with a "not yet available" tag. I'm really confused.

Steve
stevene9 said:
Well, it looks like I may have to give a very humble apology. My insistence that Amazon would never allow an illegal copy to get uploaded to their system may be wrong. I no longer see the JKR Kindle books on the Amazon site. I don't know how someone could have done this (I even got the normal email from Amazon listing the purchase and charges). I'm stumped.

Steve
Amazon has a process where independent authors and publishers can register as publishers and use the Amazon DTP tools to publish their books in Kindle versions. I am a publisher. I needed to sign lots of paperwork (specifically saying I wouldn't upload illegal stuff, among other requirements), provide them with a Tax ID# and various other requirements. It wasn't a cinch, but it wasn't impossible, either.

One of the plusses of this program is that it allows small, indie authors and publishers to make their work available to readers without having to go through the obstacle-filled process required by traditional publishers. Many of the authors here that people are reading and really enjoy -- Jeff Hepple, Mike Hicks, Al Past -- have all brought their books to the Kindle platform through the Amazon DTP process. Personally, I think it is great thing and very glad it is available.

I certainly hope this bozo with the Harry Potter stunt hasn't ruined it for the rest of us.

L
stevene9 said:
Changed again. Amazon now has the books back but with a "not yet available" tag. I'm really confused.

Steve
As I said in my other message, I think they are in the process of being removed.

L
Really strange. As others have noted, this seems in all likelihood to be a case of piracy. I'm sure we'll find out for certain soon, but in the meantime, the mods and I are all advising to stay away from those books. They're highly suspect and, if we're right, someone is illegally profiting from J. K. Rowling's works - and that's not right.

I'm not sure I t understand how that could get into the Amazon catalog, though. Are authors (or pirates, for that matter) allowed to self-publish anything without going through a review process with Amazon?
Ah, just saw Leslie's post explaining a bit about the publishing process. Thanks, Leslie.
Harvey said:
I'm not sure I t understand how that could get into the Amazon catalog, though. Are authors (or pirates, for that matter) allowed to self-publish anything without going through a review process with Amazon?
When you agree to be a publisher, you sign a bunch of documents which say you will be honest and not publish stuff you do not have the e-rights to. I don't think there is an a priori review process; rather, if something is found to be in violation, it gets pulled and the offender gets punished. Let's hope whoever pulled this Harry Potter stunt gets the book thrown at him.

L
Harvey said:
someone is illegally profiting from J. K. Rowling's works
Another thing I don't get. We are being charged by the normal Amazon pay system. Anyone who did this must know that it would be quickly found out and that Amazon would never pay them. This still makes no sense to me.

Steve
Trekker said:
That's what I find surprising. Amazon needs to re-evaluate their process that allows pirates to post bootleg books for sale. Someone dropped the ball big time and if they don't fix this problem, they better be prepared for major lawsuits, which will affect us all. :(
Obviously, they (Amazon) took the position that they believe most people are honest and ethical and will follow the rules. I think the boon has been to readers who have been able to benefit from books that they might never have had access to otherwise. I really hope this HP episode doesn't ruin things for the folks who have been doing the right thing.

L
stevene9 said:
Another thing I don't get. We are being charged by the normal Amazon pay system. Anyone who did this must know that it would be quickly found out and that Amazon would never pay them. This still makes no sense to me.

Steve
Has anyone ever suggested that crooks are smart? LOL
jasondeena said:
I called Amazon support and they said the book was fine. I ask if I should worry about it being an illegal copy and was told not to worry .
These is another possibilty here. The books actually are going to be available shortly, but someone at Amazon made a mistake and listed them before they were supposed to.

Steve
I just emailed kindle support and asked them to remove the 2 books from my kindle and credit my account due to the titles being pirated.  Are they pretty good about doing this?  I feel so bad for ordering these!
Library Girl I'm sure you'll get your money back. . . .amazon has a 7 day return policy for e-books anyway.  And you're doing the right thing. . . .

I expect it's as Leslie says and Amazon does a quick vetting with the application.  But they must have thousands so they can't do a detailed check of everyone or the system would bog down.  They rely on alert customers. . .like us! . . .to let them know when something looks iffy.  And it worked!

When JKR sees the light, you can be sure there will bells and whistles and skywriting to let folks know the HP books are available!

Ann
LibraryGirl said:
I just emailed kindle support and asked them to remove the 2 books from my kindle and credit my account due to the titles being pirated. Are they pretty good about doing this? I feel so bad for ordering these!
I would call them. Ive emailed them in the past and they dont always answer but their real good when you call.
They have again been taken off of Amazon. They were not listed when I checked several hours ago, then they were listed, but as not available yet, and now again they are not listed at all.

Steve
LibraryGirl said:
I feel so bad for ordering these!
You should not feel bad at all. When they were first listed you had no way of knowing there was a problem. That certainly never occurred to me. Everything can be rectified as we find out what happened, but there is certainly no reason for you to feel bad about anything.

Steve
LibraryGirl said:
I feel so bad for ordering these!
Don't feel bad for ordering them. If I had seen them first I probably would have done the same thing in my joy of finding HP books for the Kindle. Some day...
I'm atoning and appeasing my guilty conscious by buying legit books!  Although all but 1 are under $2, I've bought 7 today!  :p
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