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PART 2---for part 1, go to http://www.kboards.com/index.php/topic,3604.msg77699.html#msg77699
2/5/2009 21:38:09 kreelanwarrior : oooooooo, if you're in chapter 16, get ready for a rollercoaster ride...
2/5/2009 21:38:10 bkworm8it : hahahha
2/5/2009 21:38:38 ScrappingForever : it's a roller coaster ride the whole way through, tho.
2/5/2009 21:38:46 Dori : yep that it is
2/5/2009 21:38:51 ScrappingForever : you can never complain that this story drags, that's for sure!
2/5/2009 21:38:57 Beth A : true
2/5/2009 21:38:58 kreelanwarrior : so what do you think so far, dori?
2/5/2009 21:39:17 kreelanwarrior : <cat is now laying next to the kindle>
2/5/2009 21:39:21 Dori : It is a riviting read even though it is not the kind of thing I usually curl up with
2/5/2009 21:39:32 Dori : I am a happily ever after kind of reader.
2/5/2009 21:39:48 Betsy the Quilter : I just started and it certainly starts off fast!
2/5/2009 21:39:59 Dori : I have to hurry quickly over all of the pain, torture etc
2/5/2009 21:40:20 kreelanwarrior : you know, it's very interesting - a LOT of people have said that it's not the sort of book they would normally read, but they seem to enjoy it.
2/5/2009 21:40:41 Dori : I do actually enjoy it and cannot put it down.
2/5/2009 21:40:42 kreelanwarrior : well, it's a rough universe that reza lives in... :(
2/5/2009 21:40:45 Betsy the Quilter : I like that it starts out (and I am at the VERY beginning) establishing that both men and women are warriors.
2/5/2009 21:41:04 Betsy the Quilter : at least that's how it seems at lcation 40
2/5/2009 21:41:05 Dori : I have learned that I am not a book club person. If I sink into a book I am not going to read a chapter a day or 5 a week
2/5/2009 21:41:13 kreelanwarrior : well, i think one thing i can say without spoiling anything is that there are NO wimpy female characters in this book.
2/5/2009 21:41:20 ScrappingForever : yeah, no room for inequality of the sexes when they need all the bodies they can get for the war
2/5/2009 21:41:27 bkworm8it : Unfortunatly I can't say that. I've read sci-fi / fantasy since i was old enough to pick out my own books. About 7 or 8. i'm 40 now and still love scifi fantasy
2/5/2009 21:41:42 ScrappingForever : me, too, BK.
2/5/2009 21:41:45 ScrappingForever : my fave genre
2/5/2009 21:41:59 Dori : I have not seen one star wars movie
2/5/2009 21:42:19 kreelanwarrior : yeah, mine too, although i enjoy technothrillers. and i think i'm the same as dori - if i really get into a book, i can't put it down. others it's easy to put them aside.
2/5/2009 21:42:27 bkworm8it : Oh man your missing out Dori. I went to see them when I was about 10 or 11
2/5/2009 21:42:29 kreelanwarrior : wow! not one of them?
2/5/2009 21:42:38 bkworm8it : Ok I'm getting old err older
2/5/2009 21:42:47 Dori : have never read or seen any sci fi thing
2/5/2009 21:42:56 Betsy the Quilter : i think a good story is a good story...and we're hearing that a lot on Kindleboards--
2/5/2009 21:42:58 bkworm8it : Harrison Ford alone is worth watching them!
2/5/2009 21:43:04 kreelanwarrior : i saw it a number o times in the theater when the first one came out. then about a year later i met this gal who had seen it *70* times - in the theater!!
2/5/2009 21:43:11 Betsy the Quilter : I never would have read this except it was recommended...
2/5/2009 21:43:11 ScrappingForever : very, very true. betsy
2/5/2009 21:43:19 Dori : unless building all the star wars legos with my 8 yr old gr8 neph.
2/5/2009 21:43:26 Betsy the Quilter : Mike, I would assume you were a sci fi fan to start with, and that's why you chose this genre?
2/5/2009 21:43:26 kreelanwarrior : LOL!
2/5/2009 21:43:50 kreelanwarrior : well, i grew up on star trek and all those goofy irwin allen shows like lost in space.
2/5/2009 21:43:57 [Join Room] Harvey
2/5/2009 21:44:11 Dori : is that THE harvey??? welcome
2/5/2009 21:44:15 Harvey : Hello!
2/5/2009 21:44:16 kreelanwarrior : i read so much i got yelled at in class because the teacher had tried to get my attention several times, and i was nose deep in the book.
2/5/2009 21:44:19 Betsy the Quilter : oh oh, stop talking about harvey now
2/5/2009 21:44:21 Harvey : Dori, I've missed you!!!
2/5/2009 21:44:23 ScrappingForever : and war movies. hmmm...are we seeing a trend? :D
2/5/2009 21:44:25 kreelanwarrior : hey, harvey!
2/5/2009 21:44:27 bkworm8it : Ohh ya lost in space. now that brings back umm black and white tv lol
2/5/2009 21:44:29 Harvey : Yes, my ears were burning, Betsy!!
2/5/2009 21:44:41 ScrappingForever : lol BK
2/5/2009 21:44:44 Dori : I am knee deep in reading the book and no time for the boards LOL
2/5/2009 21:44:50 Beth A : hi harvey
2/5/2009 21:44:54 ScrappingForever : ha!
2/5/2009 21:44:58 Dori : I just came on for a minute tonight and saw it was book club time
2/5/2009 21:45:01 kreelanwarrior : yeah - war movies. my mom would come upstairs and catch me wathing the old john wayne war movies on our B&W TV and turn it off. when she left i'd turn them back on.
2/5/2009 21:45:13 bkworm8it : heee KW my teacher called my name for 10 mins and finally someone kicked my chair before I looked up from my book!
2/5/2009 21:45:23 kreelanwarrior : LOL! that's me!!
2/5/2009 21:45:30 Betsy the Quilter : i used to put a book under the desk and be reading it. same problem as everyone else
2/5/2009 21:45:50 Betsy the Quilter : but i think i learned as much by my personal reading as by the school assignments
2/5/2009 21:45:51 kreelanwarrior : but i didn't set out to write a story in a particular genre. it just turned out the way it did.
2/5/2009 21:45:55 Dori : I never read a book till is was over 40
2/5/2009 21:46:10 Betsy the Quilter : dori, you're making up for lost time
2/5/2009 21:46:16 Dori : yep
2/5/2009 21:46:19 ScrappingForever : wow dori!
2/5/2009 21:46:28 ScrappingForever : that opened up a whole new world for you, i'll bet!
2/5/2009 21:46:44 bkworm8it : Never too late to get started reading!!
2/5/2009 21:46:44 kreelanwarrior : wow! i have a friend at work who was that way - she hadn't read a book until about the same age, then her sister convinced her to read a danielle steel novel, and now she reads every day! it's wonderful!
2/5/2009 21:46:45 Dori : now I rarely turn on the tv
2/5/2009 21:47:04 kreelanwarrior : yeah, eight million channels of drek!
2/5/2009 21:47:11 kreelanwarrior : star drek, that is. ;)
2/5/2009 21:47:14 bkworm8it : Oh well, I read and watch tv at the same time.
2/5/2009 21:47:15 Betsy the Quilter : lol
2/5/2009 21:47:25 ScrappingForever : lol
2/5/2009 21:47:26 Dori : well i do watch quite a bit of tv, I saw the popes funeral and the president inaugaration :D
2/5/2009 21:47:34 bkworm8it : Don't forget battle star galactica
2/5/2009 21:47:39 Betsy the Quilter : harvey, is that little marshmallow that shows up next to people's names telling us they are typing?
2/5/2009 21:47:41 ScrappingForever : oh, bsg!!!!
2/5/2009 21:47:51 kreelanwarrior : yeah, ther is some decent stuff, but not much. looooove BSG.
2/5/2009 21:47:55 Harvey : Yes - it's a little typewriter key
2/5/2009 21:47:58 ScrappingForever : i think it's a key on the keyboard
2/5/2009 21:48:12 kreelanwarrior : i like the marshmellow symbology better!
2/5/2009 21:48:16 Betsy the Quilter : well i knew that but I haven't had dinner yet, i'm thinking about food
2/5/2009 21:48:17 ScrappingForever : and Dr. Who. and Torchwood!
2/5/2009 21:48:20 bkworm8it : it's just a keyboard button
2/5/2009 21:48:24 Betsy the Quilter : love dr who and torchwood
2/5/2009 21:48:29 kreelanwarrior : ja!
2/5/2009 21:48:30 bkworm8it : I never watched Dr. Who.
2/5/2009 21:48:36 Betsy the Quilter : oooh it's so goood
2/5/2009 21:48:46 Harvey : Mike, were you saying you didn't (necessarily) intend for IHN to be a particular genre?
2/5/2009 21:48:47 Betsy the Quilter : campy but good
2/5/2009 21:49:08 Dori : well just popped in to tell y'all i am reading the book. Have a great evening
2/5/2009 21:49:18 kreelanwarrior : ciao, dori!
2/5/2009 21:49:20 ScrappingForever : thanks for stopping by dori!
2/5/2009 21:49:22 Harvey : Nice seeing ya, Dori
2/5/2009 21:49:32 Beth A : bye dori
2/5/2009 21:49:50 kreelanwarrior : harvey - correct. it was actually based on a short story i did in high school (never showed it to anyone!).
2/5/2009 21:50:14 Betsy the Quilter : so, if the book was started in 94, when was the short story written? ;)
2/5/2009 21:50:22 Harvey : How long did it take you to convert it to a novel?
2/5/2009 21:50:45 Harvey : Mike is my age, so it must have been between 76 and 80. :)
2/5/2009 21:51:45 kreelanwarrior : well, i think i wrote the short story in, ummm, yeah, must've been 80 (graduated in 81).
2/5/2009 21:51:58 Harvey : Was it a school assignment?
2/5/2009 21:52:01 kreelanwarrior : <jan's yelling at me to write a sentence, then hit return!>
2/5/2009 21:52:13 Harvey : Back-seat driver!!
2/5/2009 21:52:22 kreelanwarrior : no, wasn't an assignment. i was keeping a journal then and just writing down ideas.
2/5/2009 21:52:27 bkworm8it : ummm that would be back-seat typest!
2/5/2009 21:52:37 ScrappingForever : someone's gotta keep him on track. ;)
2/5/2009 21:52:55 kreelanwarrior : i started writing the novel in 91 as a challenge (to actually do it) and an escape - my first marriage wasn't doing so well then. :(
2/5/2009 21:53:39 kreelanwarrior : then i finished the draft in 94 (is that what i said earlier?) after rewriting the second half of the book!
2/5/2009 21:53:54 bkworm8it : Well I'm glad you met Jan, sounds like you both have a lot in common
2/5/2009 21:54:06 bkworm8it : yes 94
2/5/2009 21:54:15 Harvey : You must have incredible discipline.
2/5/2009 21:54:21 kreelanwarrior : well, like i said, the dedication was true! :)
2/5/2009 21:54:30 ScrappingForever : :D
2/5/2009 21:55:04 kreelanwarrior : well, i don't think anyone's accused me of having incredible discipline! i think at that point my life was simply so empty that this was a sort of escape.
2/5/2009 21:55:04 Harvey : I have IHN next up on my reading list. I'm looking forward to the book club.
2/5/2009 21:55:10 bkworm8it : How did you come up with the name Reza?
2/5/2009 21:56:00 kreelanwarrior : hmmm, it wasn't a conscious thing, like researching his name. but i think itmust've sprouted from iranian history - shah reza pahlavi.
2/5/2009 21:56:15 bkworm8it : You haven't started reading yet Harvey? We are discussing 1-5 this week. Pretty good so far - if they would let me get through this cliff hanger hehehe
2/5/2009 21:56:38 Harvey : I know, I have some catching up to do!!!
2/5/2009 21:56:41 kreelanwarrior : poor BK! you need to stay home from work!! ;)
2/5/2009 21:56:49 Harvey : Leslie is working me too hard on the forum. :)
2/5/2009 21:56:53 Beth A : every time i put it own, it feels like a cliff hanger
2/5/2009 21:57:04 kreelanwarrior : LOL!
2/5/2009 21:57:26 kreelanwarrior : i think the guy who holds the record (as far a i know) finished the book in two days.
2/5/2009 21:57:27 Betsy the Quilter : I'm hooked, finally caught up on Whiskey Rebels and Outlander now starting this, gonna get caught up this weekend!
2/5/2009 21:57:43 ScrappingForever : lol beth. so true.
2/5/2009 21:57:47 bkworm8it : LOL Beth. I'm really in trouble. Good thing tomorrow is friday. Usually during the day my eyes clear up. So I'm hoping for a marathon reading session!
2/5/2009 21:57:53 Beth A : <-has to work :(
2/5/2009 21:58:02 kreelanwarrior : poor beth! me, too. :(
2/5/2009 21:58:06 Beth A : but should finish this weekend
2/5/2009 21:58:16 ScrappingForever : me, too. it's tough working from my recliner. ;)
2/5/2009 21:58:29 kreelanwarrior : i'm just waiting for the movie version to come out! LOL!
2/5/2009 21:58:42 [Join Room] gertiekindle
2/5/2009 21:58:46 Harvey : Mike, do you find you need HUGE blocks of time in order to write? How do you find those blocks of time? Curious.
2/5/2009 21:58:49 ScrappingForever : hey gertie! wb!
2/5/2009 21:58:59 kreelanwarrior : gertie returns!
2/5/2009 21:59:05 Harvey : Hey gk!
2/5/2009 21:59:11 ScrappingForever : did you bring your cool atomic hat this time?
2/5/2009 21:59:19 bkworm8it : Well I don't usually do books and movie but i'd make an exception in your case if I was invited to the premer lol lol
2/5/2009 21:59:20 Beth A : hi gertie
2/5/2009 21:59:24 bkworm8it : hi gertie
2/5/2009 21:59:27 ScrappingForever : ha!
2/5/2009 21:59:32 ScrappingForever : a movie is our dream! :D
2/5/2009 21:59:45 Beth A : I want the next book
2/5/2009 22:00:05 Beth A : (movie would be awesome too)
2/5/2009 22:00:07 kreelanwarrior : harvey - that is now a HUGE problem. when i wrote this i didn't have a life (almost literally) - time wasn't an issue.
2/5/2009 22:00:26 Harvey : It must be hard to get in the 'zone'
2/5/2009 22:00:34 kreelanwarrior : but when i do write, i usually need big chunks of time.
2/5/2009 22:00:37 ScrappingForever : ha! now he has a wife who keeps him busy, and kids who keep him busy and too much other interestes to keep him busy!
2/5/2009 22:00:50 Harvey : Those all sound like good problems. :)
2/5/2009 22:00:56 kreelanwarrior : aye!
2/5/2009 22:00:59 ScrappingForever : they are, but makes it harder.
2/5/2009 22:01:15 Betsy the Quilter : do you think you'll be able to draw from your life for the next book(s)?
2/5/2009 22:01:24 Betsy the Quilter : :)
2/5/2009 22:01:26 kreelanwarrior : it's like the conundrum of spending time promoting this book vs. writin g the next.
2/5/2009 22:01:36 Harvey : Some people get self-destructive when they go through bad times... and you decided to create a world instead. Pretty cool.
2/5/2009 22:01:53 kreelanwarrior : betsy - well, i started a book about siberian cats! ;)
2/5/2009 22:02:32 kreelanwarrior : harvey - well, i just went where the story took me. you have to remember, i never scripted out any of the plot. none of it. it all just sort of came to me as i wrote. it was very strange...
2/5/2009 22:03:32 kreelanwarrior : also, as you'll see when you get into it, there is a lot of pain and suffering. i think that was largely a reflection of what was going on emotionally at the time. :(
2/5/2009 22:03:48 Harvey : I've heard that the best stories are ones where the story leads the author, and not vice versa...
2/5/2009 22:03:57 ScrappingForever : hmm...does that mean from now on your stories will all be happy happy?
2/5/2009 22:04:06 ScrappingForever : i somehow doubt it.
2/5/2009 22:04:10 kreelanwarrior : ha!
2/5/2009 22:04:13 ScrappingForever : nor do i think they should be
2/5/2009 22:04:21 bkworm8it : At least you found a creative outlet for your emotions! and what a good one it turned out to be
2/5/2009 22:04:37 kreelanwarrior : i like to think it's not too bad! :)
2/5/2009 22:04:39 bkworm8it : Will jan your going to have to beat him some so he can write LOL
2/5/2009 22:04:47 kreelanwarrior : Noooooo!
2/5/2009 22:04:57 Betsy the Quilter : wear leather
2/5/2009 22:05:12 Betsy the Quilter : *whip*
2/5/2009 22:05:13 ScrappingForever : wear leather and give him a kilt wedgie.
2/5/2009 22:05:16 bkworm8it : :}
2/5/2009 22:05:23 ScrappingForever : there's a combination!
2/5/2009 22:05:25 kreelanwarrior : the problem for me with any other books in this universe is that - with the possible exception of the foundation of the first empire - love has got to be the central focus.
2/5/2009 22:05:33 ScrappingForever : no, he'd enjoy the leather and whip thing too much! ha!
2/5/2009 22:05:35 kreelanwarrior : <yeeeeooowwww!>
2/5/2009 22:05:45 Harvey : TMI...!!
2/5/2009 22:05:48 bkworm8it : Tmi
2/5/2009 22:05:57 ScrappingForever : hee hee
2/5/2009 22:06:10 bkworm8it : Ok now i've got to go read to get that visual outa my head :eek:
2/5/2009 22:06:21 kreelanwarrior : otherwise the story doesn't have the same sort of draw/interest. i thnk that's what separates this from straight military sci-fi, etc.
2/5/2009 22:06:22 ScrappingForever : ha!
2/5/2009 22:06:27 kreelanwarrior : <poor BK!>
2/5/2009 22:06:36 bkworm8it : Though the cold meds will kick in and take care of that for me ;)
2/5/2009 22:06:52 Harvey : Mike, we're transcripting this chat, so the leather and wedgie thing is recorded for posterity. :)
2/5/2009 22:07:01 Betsy the Quilter : ok, i have to get going on this book
2/5/2009 22:07:07 kreelanwarrior : hey, i'm the victim here!! LOL!
2/5/2009 22:07:09 ScrappingForever : i don't know. i think as you're writing that you'll naturally build in a that love interest.
2/5/2009 22:07:10 bkworm8it : I do have to say most of the scifi I enjoyed usually had some love entrest
2/5/2009 22:07:32 Betsy the Quilter : me too
2/5/2009 22:07:33 ScrappingForever : the story will have humanrelationships, and will inevitably have some of htat.
2/5/2009 22:07:41 ScrappingForever : ugh, harvey!
2/5/2009 22:07:42 kreelanwarrior : well, the vampire story i've had rattling around certainly does. :)
2/5/2009 22:07:50 Harvey : Betsy made me do it.
2/5/2009 22:07:57 ScrappingForever : lol
2/5/2009 22:07:58 kreelanwarrior : bad betsy!
2/5/2009 22:08:23 Betsy the Quilter : we must have records....
2/5/2009 22:08:24 bkworm8it : hmmmm vampires and love... isn't that an oxymoran?
2/5/2009 22:08:51 ScrappingForever : not for most of the writers writing about vampires, it seems. lol
2/5/2009 22:08:53 kreelanwarrior : well, these aren't your typical vampires, no more than in her name is your typical sci-fi/fantasy. ;)
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