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Okay, peeps! Thanks mostly to Jan, here are this week's questions... ;D

Chapter 24

What did you think when Reza shared the blood bond with Nicole?

Did you have a suspicion of who was sabotaging Reza's combat armor?

Chapter 25

Do you think you would have had the courage to do what Eustus did to save Reza?

What were your impressions after the exchange between Jodi and Thorella in the command bunker?

Chapter 26

What did you think of Reza's rationale for not trying to get out of his assignment to the Red Legion?

Chapter 27

Nicole's getting married. Did you expect that? What do you think will become of Jodi?

Were you surprised at what happened after the wedding??

Does the last line of this chapter, spoken by Father Hernandez, give you hope that Reza and Esah-Zhurah will be reunited: He stopped then, turning his attention again toward the sky and the invisible stars beyond. "Or the prodigal son who is yet to return
home?"


Chapter 28

What were your first impressions of Erlang? Of the Mallorys and Raniers?

When Reza first arrived there, were you wondering how it fit into the bigger story, or were you just riding along to see where Mike's fingers took you? ;) [You can tell when Jan writes these questions, can't you? - MRH]

Chapter 29

Were you surprised by the news from Jodi about Father Hernandez at the beginning of the chapter? How did you feel about what she said happened? Here's what she said:
Father Hernandez died two days ago in Rome, here on Earth...

What are your impressions of Enya?
 

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gertiekindle said:
I was disappointed that we didn't see more of him. I thought there would be more interaction between Hernandez and Reza. I thought he might help integrate Reza back into human society.
Yeah, a number of folks have commented on that. I suppose if I were to completely do the story over again he would play a larger role, because he certainly was an important influence on Reza. Bad fingers!
 

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gertiekindle said:
And JKR wants to rewrite all the Potter books. Don't second guess yourself. Your fingers wrote what they were supposed to write. Reza didn't really need to reintegrate with the humans. He only needed to be human enough to fight on their side, which he did.

I have now officially joined the 2:30am Klub (2:45, actually). Yes, I finished it early this morning, and was too tired to drive my granddaughter to school or me to the doctors. Bad Gertie. :mad:
Good heavens! Either it was really good or really bad! LOL! Well, get a good night's rest... ;D
 

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PraiseGod13 said:
Another great week of reading!
I'm not sure why.... but I was so disappointed that Reza and Jodi "succumbed" after the wedding. I know they were both distraught.... but since Reza refused to have sex with Nicole - his first love - I didn't want him to give in with Jodi who meant less to him.
Those darn fingers again! ;D

Both of them were really suffering some serious emotional trauma at this point: Jodi was heartbroken at Nicole marrying, and guilt-stricken at how she'd behaved at the wedding; Reza felt like his emotional lifeline to Nicole had been cut, and his sense of loneliness was overpowering. Mix all that together with Jodi's headstrong personality...

And I don't necessarily think that Jodi meant less to him than Nicole. I think it's more akin to the different types of love he might show a sister and a close friend. While he shared a special bond with Nicole, Jodi in many ways was his closest friend (aside from Eustus, of course), and he loved them both very deeply.

I was totally happy with Father Hernandez' words at the end of the wedding!! Hope.... there is hope....
;D

I saw Erlang as a place where the Raniers are lining their pockets through the sweat of the Mallorys. And I think the Raniers are enjoying their "power trip" and dominance at the expense of the Mallorys. It reminded me of slavery in our own country's history. I was wondering how Erlang was going to fit into the rest of our story, but knowing that Mike's fingers have a mind of their own.... I was willing to follow where they lead. :eek:
Erlang has turned out to be a bit of an interesting aspect of the book. I never would have expected it, but a couple of reviewers, particularly The Book Smugglers, would have liked that part of the book beefed up to learn more about the backstory and the history of the political struggle there.

Enya has me intrigued..... another strong female in a position of leadership. With Reza's history of being raised in a female dominated society, I think he immediately respected Enya and her position with the Mallorys and didn't question whether or not this female truly spoke for the Mallorys.
Enya is tough. Like most of the other characters in the book, she's had to endure a lot in her life. But - like Reza's time on Hallmark - most of the abuse has been from humans...

And..... I loved the scene where the Marines did "cosmetic surgery" on Belisle's own personal Mt. Rushmore!
BOOM! One of the reasons I love tanks... ;D
 

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Neekeebee said:
Stayed up till one again reading this last night....Couldn't stop myself from reading that extra chapter!
Ahhh! Crazy night-owls! ;D

Several surprises this week. Nicole getting married--didn't expect that. I kept thinking she would play a larger role in Reza's life, kind of like Jodi has. Also surprised that Father Hernandez died...on Earth. I also expected more out of him. Can't remember if the first scene in the book (with Reza's parents) took place on Earth. It's interesting that Jodi, Nicole and Tony are all there, too. Maybe we'll see more of future Earth?
Without giving anything away, you'll see that while at this point Nicole and Reza don't seem extraordinarily close (in terms of how much their relationship is a focus), she plays an extremely important role later...

The book opened with the battle for New Constantinople, which - in my mind's eye - was something of a melting pot of immigrants, mostly from the Mediterranean region. But you'll get a bit of a glimpse of Earth in not too long...

Erlang's history seemed very realistic to me--given the circumstances of the two populations, what has happened seems a likely outcome. Like others, I loved the part where Reza blew up the megalomaniac's face. Maybe there are also huge statues scattered throughout Erlang that Reza can go around blowing up as well?
Well, it would be rather fun to drive a several hundred ton tank around and blast things willy-nilly! ;D

I had to chuckle when Reza referred to human politics as "a dark art", (K9593) but I admit I'm looking forward to see how Reza deals with whatever Borge has in store for him. 8)
I'm not gonna say a word... Ha!
 

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gertiekindle said:
That's pretty much the way I felt about it. It's really a blood-tie between Reza and Nicole. They are linked physically as well as emotionally. Hmmm, maybe Nicole's honeymoon passion linked itself to Reza and that's why he was overwhelmed. ;) Jodi may have also been feeling that blood-tie and sleeping with Reza is the closest she could ever get to Nicole.
Yeah, I don't really have an explanation for the whys. But putting myself in Reza's shoes, particularly after having experienced the Bloodsong and then being cut off from it, "loneliness" would have a completely new definition. And that would make sense, that his tie to Nicole would echo what she was feeling, since it was largely an empathic bond to begin with.

There are things I want to say about Enya, but can't without spoiling. And I know we're a group of peekers, so I won't even put spoiler tags.
Well, there is always the spoiler thread! ;)

I was thinking as I was reading
the final battle
that you probably served in the Navy.
Oddly enough, mine was a "Navy family" with my grandfather, father, and his brother all bobbing around like corks on the water. I didn't like the prospect of being on a tin-can in the middle of a big puddle of water, so I joined the Army. Had I to do it all over again, though, I would've joined the Marines, so I could have the worst of both worlds! ;D

Borge and Thorella. You know that bad guy has to show up again.
Yes, unfortunately... :(
 

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I believe the Raniers were like frogs in a pot. They just kept giving in and making conssessions over the years and didn't realize they were being boiled. The Mallorys got very comfortable and power hungry with each consession getting fat on others work. I do believe there were some on both sides that wanted better for each other but not sure what to do.
"Frogs in a pot..." - that's a great one, I'll have to remember that! :)

But yeah, rather true: the Raniers are - more or less - the "bad guys," but the Mallorys did let themselves get led down the garden path. But like so many other things, it was a culture clash after the Raniers arrived, only one that simmered slowly over a long period of time before erupting.

I'll have the questions for this week up tomorrow - Jan and I have been feverishly trying to get our latest project up and running. Aaack! So many things to do, so little time!
 

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Anju said:
oops - well guess I can see I will have to go back and look up some of the answers - that's what I get for doing too many book klubs, here and DTV.

okay - later although Gertie does do a pretty good job of reading my mind! ;)
LOL! Yeah, Gertie's all over it! ;D
 

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gertiekindle said:
Awww, Anju. You remembered.

Mike, where are you? What's this project you and Jan are working on? Something we can read? (hope, hope)
You can all star in the movie, blue or not! ;D

And I apologize for being late - still! Jan did most of the questions, but I need to do some, and I'm still trying to get this other site up! It's not a book-ish site, but some may hopefully find it of interest (and since you asked! LOL!) - www.FitClubToday.com.

Dang, it's almost 1030. Lemme see if I can get these questions done, since I've still got too much work on the other site to finish tonight. AAAAACK!
 

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Ann in Arlington said:
Wedding: not too surprised. . . . .I figured Nicole would find someone when it became clear that she'd never 'get' Reza. But it did present a problem for Reza. . . .though he's happy for her, when she was un-attached she worked better as a vent for his lonliness for EZ. It seems like she was able to share some of his sadness, though not consciously, which helped him handle. Once he realized that he couldn't ask that of her any more and took it all back onto himself it was like a newly re-opened wound with some salt rubbed in just for good measure. I did figure Jodi and Reza would get together. . . .I sorta thought he'd share blood with her to begin husing her as his outlet. But maybe the sex accomplished roughly the same thing.
Yeah, talk about being lonely - both Reza and Jodi! :( I don't think he did the blood bond with her because it was such an over the top thing to have done with a "human" in the first place. Making love with Jodi took the edge off and I think helped him pack all the emotional baggage back into the trunk for a while...

I absolutely loved when he made the Commander salute him because he wore the medal of honor. So cool! . . . .pretty clear you're from a military family.
My dad's father, my dad, and his brother were all in the Navy. I joined the Army. Didn't want to get eaten by sharks! ;D

Only right that Eustus saved Reza. . . . .you could see how far he'd come after their initial meeting. . . .I thought the whole 'get the in-fighting out of your system thing' was interesting too. . . . I was impressed with the guy who didn't have a beef but just wanted to try it on against Reza as test for himself. . . .you could tell Reza totally understood and respected him for it. . . it was a lot like the challenges he went through with the Kreelan.
Washington Hawthorne. Human tree. You'll see him more later...

I'm thinking at some point Reza will have to get back to EZ. . . .somehow humans and Kreelans have to learn to understand each other and he's definitely the catalyst for that. It will be interesting to see how it happens. . . . .Of course, at some point, he'll have to take care of Thorella and his puppet master Borge (Is that name meant to conjure up Lucretia Borgia et al, by any chance) too. . . .
You'll just have to wait and seeeeeee... ;D As for Borge vs. Borgia, I never consciously thought of it, but you never know what my dastardly fingers will type when writing a story!
 

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Ann in Arlington said:
One other thing I wanted to add. . .I think I noticed a time-line disconnect. . . or maybe I just wasn't paying attention, and maybe I have the 'old' version before you fixed things. :)

When Reza gets to Erlanger it is mentioned that it's been a year since the wedding. Later on, there's a comment about how he hasn't seen Jodi (I think) in several years. . . . .oops. If it has been several years, one would think maybe he'd made Major by now. :) OTOH, Thorella is apparently a Colonel (he comes back in chapter 33 or so?) which seems like quick promotion if it's only been 7 years (6 from basic training to Nicole's wedding and then one more). Of course, he's got higher ups pulling strings for him. . . . .

I AM enjoying the story. . . .hope to finish to 39 today and post in the next thread. . . . :D

Ann
Thanks, Ann! Yes, there's a timeline discontinuity there. I marked those from an earlier pass through the book and will have them fixed soon. Dang fingers, can't add worth beans! ;D

As for Thorella's meteoric rise in rank, that's no mistake: he *does* have somebody pulling lots of strings, the bugger...
 
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