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[JRTomlin]

Less than $4 per borrow, I'm pretty sure. (Take my opinion with the usual grain of salt, of course)

I see no chance with all the new Fires out there with free Prime accounts that there will be fewer borrows than last month. The question is how many more borrows than the past few months? Twice as many which would give us a lot more borrows at the same price each? Less than twice at slightly more per borrow? Or more than twice as many at less than $2 per borrow (which is what happened last December if I remember correctly)?

Good question. Darn if I know.

 

[Amanda Brice]

I do think each borrow will be worth more than the normal roughly $2, but I don't think it will be double, even though the fund has been doubled.

Remember, all new Kindle Fire owners get a free one-month trial of Prime, not to mention all the people who signed up for Prime on Black Friday so they would get free 2-day shipping for the entire month leading up to Christmas -- many of these people will cancel their Prime membership before the end of the 30-day trial period, but they will probably take advantage of their free borrow during the month they have it. So there are likely to be a lot of "new" Prime members during this month.

Not to mention the fact that the KOLL is now available in the other countries' stores (particularly Amazon UK)/

The increase in the fund reflects that Amazon expects to see a lot more borrows than normal. Yes, I do think the per-borrow rate will rise, but I certainly don't expect to see it at $4 or anything crazy like that. (Although it would be pretty awesome if that were the case.)

 

[JRTomlin]

Good point about more borrows, therefore roughly the same money per borrow.

As for the other countries - I haven't had a single borrow outside the US, ever. Do you guys get borrows in other countries?

Not me. I've had one in the UK, I think.

 

[Quiss]

Looking forward to this. I had 80 borrows in November (includes one in the UK)

Starting to look decent for December, too. I had one borrow in Germany in December so far.

 

[Quiss]

I think I asked this before but then probably forgot to look to see if anyone answered.

Do the 99-centers get the same amount for a borrow?

 

[Griffin Hayes]

2 borrows in the UK which surprised me too. One sale in Spain which nearly floored me. I'm trying not to get my hopes up about the payout per borrow though. I'll try and keep my expectations now. That way I'm more likely to be pleasantly surprised.

 

[JRTomlin]

I think I asked this before but then probably forgot to look to see if anyone answered.

Do the 99-centers get the same amount for a borrow?

Yes. The amount is based solely on the aggregate pot divided by the number of borrows.

 

[Incognita]

Good point about more borrows, therefore roughly the same money per borrow.

As for the other countries - I haven't had a single borrow outside the US, ever. Do you guys get borrows in other countries?

I've had seven in the UK so far this month and three in Germany. Color me shocked.

 

[Gertie Kindle]

Good point about more borrows, therefore roughly the same money per borrow.

As for the other countries - I haven't had a single borrow outside the US, ever. Do you guys get borrows in other countries?

I had one in the UK, but borrows have been non-existent for me this month. I don't know what the problem is.

 

[4eyesbooks]

I get a few borrows in the UK, but no other countries.  I'm thinking it will be around $3 per borrow.  I would love it if it were higher since I've had hundreds of borrows for far for December, but that's probably not likely.

 

[FrankFields]

It looks like November was in the ballpark of $1.89 or so? 

Yeah... I'm thinking it'll be $2.20-ish, when you account for all the new devices and 30-day Prime members.

 

[MalloryMoutinho]

Oh, oh, are we taking bets?

I call $1.57!

Why? That's what my gut is telling me...no logic or thought behind that number.

 

[41413]

I was feeling much more optimistic until I saw November's borrow amount ($1.86 or something like that?). Now I'm going to say $2.75.

 

[Fantasma]

I have 2 borrows on a .99 book. I can't lose!

 

[Onedayatatime]

I think it is going to be low. I think there are going to be a lot more borrows.

I'll say $1.75 per book.

 

[RuthNestvold]

Good point about more borrows, therefore roughly the same money per borrow.

As for the other countries - I haven't had a single borrow outside the US, ever. Do you guys get borrows in other countries?

I've had two each in the UK and Germany.

I've had over sixty borrows this month, very high for me, so it would be lovely if payout is higher, but I have to admit that I'm with the skeptics. There are so many more people borrowing, I doubt if the amount per borrow will go up much, if at all. Don't think it will go down, though.

 

[Lyndawrites]

I've had no borrows anywhere at all this month and barely any sales, either. Sigh. Must write more books.

 

[48209]

I have my one Pity Borrow from a Certain Person on the boards... and I'm STILL so darn excited about it

Caitie, who is in day 4 of Select

 

[scottnicholson]

I had about 80 borrows in Germany (on German books) last month so it is starting to heat up there. But it's way down this month, maybe 15 or 18 so far.  I think people are underestimating the impact of the other markets on trimming the per-borrow compensation. The Kindle Fire only recently went on offer in other countries and more indie writers are entering the pool from all over the world.

And I think Amazon tossed in the $1.5m to lure more books back in during this important period. I expect the per-borrow comp to still be around $2 but don't forget you are likely to get far more total borrows (last January had about three times more loans than the other months). Amazon has run books as loss leaders from the very beginning of the business, and now we are their loss leaders.

That said, Amazon clearly wins this round! I bet there are a quarter-million books in Select after Christmas.