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I've got an idea for a story about a botched robbery. Here are some things that have to happen in the story. It HAS to be a Sunday night. The store has to be making a large deposit with a lot of cash at close of business, preferably the whole weekend's receipts. I figure it would work best if there was a weekend manager who doesn't do a Saturday drop because the hours are too late on Saturday.

So I'm thinking a bar, because a bar would do a cash business and would conceivably close earlier on Sunday so the deposit would go in on Sunday night, but is there a business that works better or is there something about bars that would make this impractical. I've never worked in one, so I don't really know.

Once again here are the must haves:

Large cash business, more-so than checks or credit cards.
Makes sense for weekend manager to be different than weekday manager.
Late hours on Saturday so deposits saved up til Sunday.

Other businesses I am considering:

A diner
A pawn shop
A mall jeweler (but I'm dubious of the cash business - thinking more likely to be credit and checks)
A church

What do you guys think? Any business I'm missing that might be even more perfect?
 

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It could be almost any business if you set it during a special event -- like a downtown fair or art show that would bring in extra business.
 

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Most pawn shops are closed on Sundays.
 

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  A casino would be good, but it would have to be a small casino ( maybe on an Indian reservation) because the larger casinos probably use armored truck services.
  Special events would probably be good as well as someone else said. Fairs tend to be large but some small towns collect an amazing amount of cash. Large Flea markets in large towns collect rent, usually by cash, from vendors who just show up and rent tables.
  Not sure but I think sellers of old marbles, valuable marbles, jewelry ( especially diamonds ) operate all cash. They might rent a conference room in a hotel on a Sunday.
 

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nek07, Flea market is sounding good for this story. I'd have never thought of that. I forgot to mention that it also has to be Halloween weekend so some of the special event suggestions also work. Casino is also good, and it makes me think I could maybe use a gambling cafe and set it in West Virginia.

Thanks for the great suggestions, folks. And Cinisajoy, I did not know that about pawn shops. I knew it about barbers though. Thanks.
 

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Well, if it's Halloween... how about something like this? http://frightnightsatthefair.com/ This is a huge event around here, runs at the state fairgrounds for two months. Presumably makes tons of money, because it's always crowded there. Plus, it could make for a really fun story. :D
 
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I figure it would work best if there was a weekend manager who doesn't do a Saturday drop because the hours are too late on Saturday.
Assuming this is because the bank is closed and does not have a drop box for cash deposits, you will have the same problem on Sunday. Only a handful of banks are open on Sundays, and even then at reduced hours. So if the bank doesn't have a drop box for cash deposits on Saturday night, it won't have one for cash deposits on a Sunday night either.

Also keep in mind that most flea markets don't have a central collection. Each table collects its own money. Anything paid to the property owner was paid in advance. There wouldn't be a large one drop of cash deposits as most of the vendors would handle their stuff individually.

In addition, lots of cash businesses these days don't even DO night drops precisely because of the danger. Many of them have timed safes that can't be open at night. Employees drop the money into the safe and they couldn't even open it at gunpoint if they had to because of the timer.

I wouldn't overthink it. Keep it simple like a restaurant or a convenience store. The more creative you try to get, the more likely you run into logistical problems (like the issue with pawn shops not generally being open on Sunday)
 

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I wouldn't use a bar. Especially the kind of place that does huge business on the weekends. I've worked in bars, the owners I've worked for usually arrive halfway through happy hour and are there at closing. One didn't make a drop at the bank, but took the night's receipts home. Under security. That's another thing, security in large clubs is tighter on the weekends. More doormen, more bar backs and more bouncers. The real ones, not the guys that work weeknights. Even on Sunday night.
 

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In many states, bars are closed on Sundays.

Here's another angle... we have grocery stores here in Houston that take cash only. Aldi I think is the name of the chain.

The few times Mrs. Nobody has frequented these establishments, I've noticed the cashier's drawers are stuffed to the gills. (In my line of work, that's a huge no-no.) The place is a target, or better yet, the manager taking in the deposit. Less witnesses... less hassle.

My son manages a pizza shop. Not long ago, they lost their phone/net connection during a thunder storm, and couldn't take credit cards. His cash deposit that night was substantial. You could have your thief(s) cut the internet connection and then stand back to wait on the Elvis-cash to leave the building.

 

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How about a cinema?

I worked on the management team at a cinema while I was at university. We wouldn't close until 2am on Saturday night (well, Sunday morning), so it was too late to do anything with the cash then. I seem to remember cash was collected by a security van on the Monday morning, rather than us depositing it anywhere, but still. There would be a different team working the weekends, mostly students like me, as well as people who were working two jobs. The full-time cinema staff tended to work Monday-Friday. With the bulk of card transactions being for pre-booked tickets online, the deposit would be largely cash, especially when you factor in the popcorn, drinks, ice creams, etc revenue.

Just a thought.
 

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jdcore said:
I've got an idea for a story about a botched robbery. Here are some things that have to happen in the story. It HAS to be a Sunday night. The store has to be making a large deposit with a lot of cash at close of business, preferably the whole weekend's receipts. I figure it would work best if there was a weekend manager who doesn't do a Saturday drop because the hours are too late on Saturday.

So I'm thinking a bar, because a bar would do a cash business and would conceivably close earlier on Sunday so the deposit would go in on Sunday night, but is there a business that works better or is there something about bars that would make this impractical. I've never worked in one, so I don't really know.

Once again here are the must haves:

Large cash business, more-so than checks or credit cards.
Makes sense for weekend manager to be different than weekday manager.
Late hours on Saturday so deposits saved up til Sunday.

Other businesses I am considering:

A diner
A pawn shop
A mall jeweler (but I'm dubious of the cash business - thinking more likely to be credit and checks)
A church

What do you guys think? Any business I'm missing that might be even more perfect?
Not a church, unless it was a megachurch. Churches have treasurers that work in the day, often several that work together for security. They lock everything up in a safe.

You could consider a convenience store or for more money, a large 24-hour grocery store.
 

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jdcore said:
I've got an idea for a story about a botched robbery. Here are some things that have to happen in the story. It HAS to be a Sunday night. The store has to be making a large deposit with a lot of cash at close of business, preferably the whole weekend's receipts. I figure it would work best if there was a weekend manager who doesn't do a Saturday drop because the hours are too late on Saturday.

So I'm thinking a bar, because a bar would do a cash business and would conceivably close earlier on Sunday so the deposit would go in on Sunday night, but is there a business that works better or is there something about bars that would make this impractical. I've never worked in one, so I don't really know.

Once again here are the must haves:

Large cash business, more-so than checks or credit cards.
Makes sense for weekend manager to be different than weekday manager.
Late hours on Saturday so deposits saved up til Sunday.

Other businesses I am considering:

A diner
A pawn shop
A mall jeweler (but I'm dubious of the cash business - thinking more likely to be credit and checks)
A church

What do you guys think? Any business I'm missing that might be even more perfect?
What about a Casino?
 

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IS the  robbery supposed to take place when the manager drops the $$ off?
I used to do the books at a grocery store chain. It is a big store in a small but well-to-do town. Cash takings over the weekend, especially after a big grocery shopping weekend, are often large. Big weekends usually include game days etc. I don't follow sporting events so I'm not sure if a big game weekend could coincide with Halloween or not. The armored truck does not pickup on Sundays so weekend takings are held over until the Monday pickup.
Before they were robbed and corporate security policy changed, the bookkeeper will also carry cash takings from the gas station to the store. If you add both gas and car wash takings over the weekend, the amount can be fairly big. That might also be a possible scenario. The general manager usually works on weekends as well.
 

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no matter what you do, someone somewhere will feel it wouldn't work. 

my question is, are you robbing the store?  or are you planning on robbing the person with the money outside the store?

 
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The robbery is at the bank when the asst manager or weekend manager gets out of his/her car to do a bank drop.
So are they actually breaking into the bank at night and attempting to open the vault? The vast majority of bank robberies actually occur during normal business hours, because unless you are Ocean's 11 it is practically impossible to get into a locked bank vault and no money is left in the tills at night (A friend's son was a bank manager for a number of years). I'm confused as to the logistics here. If the robbery is at the bank, the nature of the business doing the drop is not even relevant. Unless they are just watching the bank hoping someone will make a drop.
 

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jdcore said:
The robbery is at the bank when the asst manager or weekend manager gets out of his/her car to do a bank drop.
Security cameras.
 
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