[David VanDyke]

Noticed this on a box set I published:

The maximum number of KENP Read that an individual borrow can earn is 3000.

It's right after the KENPC count. So, box-setters, looks like it won't be as profitable to publish above 3000 KENPC.

 

[Jim Johnson]

Noticed this on a box set I published:

The maximum number of KENP Read that an individual borrow can earn is 3000.

It's right after the KENPC count. So, box-setters, looks like it won't be as profitable to publish above 3000 KENPC.

Wait, that's not clear. Are they saying that any one product can't have a KENP higher than 3000, or that any one product can't earn more than 3000 page reads? I'm guessing the former as the latter would melt the internet from the cries of foul play.

EDIT: Was looking at the Royalties in Kindle Unlimited and Kindle Owners' Lending Library:

KENPC v2.0 also introduces a change to how we handle extremely long books like dictionaries and long reference books. Under KENPC v2.0, authors will be able to earn a maximum of 3,000 Kindle Edition Normalized Pages (KENPs) read per title per customer. While this change impacts a fraction of a percent of KDP Select books, we believe it will result in a more equitable distribution of the KDP Select Global Fund. Each time your book is borrowed and read, you will receive credit for up to 3,000 pages.

So I guess it's been there all along. Really long books cap out at KENP 3,000.

 

[Saul Tanpepper]

Wait, that's not clear. Are they saying that any one product can't have a KENP higher than 3000, or that any one product can't earn more than 3000 page reads? I'm guessing the former as the latter would melt the internet from the cries of foul play.

The latter. There's a 3000 KENPC cap that any title can earn from any single borrower.

I suspect a whole bunch of people are now scrambling to check their KENPC. Based on my estimates, 3000 KENPC may be as few as 350,000 words.

 

[Jim Johnson]

The latter. There's a 3000 KENPC cap that any title can earn from any single borrower.

I suspect a whole bunch of people are now scrambling to check their KENPC. Based on my estimates, 3000 KENPC may be as few as 350,000 words.

I misunderstood it. I read it as 'any one title can't earn more than 3000 pages read'. Meaning that once a title picks up 3000 pages read in a month, it can't earn more. Which would be looney tunes and would really make a lot of authors unhappy. So, my bad for misreading a poorly worded statement from the 'zon.

 

[Lydniz]

Yes, mine have dropped too, by quite a bit.

 

[Rick Gualtieri]

Not seeing much change in mine.  I see the 2.0 notice, but no idea if this is a rolling change or not.  Definitely will be checking my dashboard religiously over the next several days.

 

[David VanDyke]

Looks like mine did go down 10-20%. I suspect they did some algorithm tweaking. If I were the Zon, I'd make sure formatting differences didn't inflate or deflate page count. For example, a book formatted with a half-line between paragraphs shouldn't magically have more KENPC. I'm sure there were formatting tricks that increased KENPC; I remember seeing them discussed somewhere, though not here.

Not saying anyone actually did anything like that; just that the Zon may have decided to change the way they calculate, and naturally some will drop, some won't (or not as much).

 

[Nicholas Erik]

My page counts went up for the time being. I have no idea how Amazon's calculations changed, but I guess it can help, too.

My books have very basic formatting, for the record, and are produced with InDesign.

Nick

 

[Saul Tanpepper]

Just checked the first ten Select books in my dashboard. These are titles ranging from as little as 35 KENPC to as large as 550. Without having made any changes to any of the files, every single one has dropped from 10.5% to 25%.

#amnothappy

 

[David VanDyke]

This just hit my inbox (I guess it was pure luck I checked the KENPC and found this out before the email):

Hello,

Today we announced KENPC v2.0. This release makes a number of improvements to how we standardize font, line height, and spacing used to normalize the length of each book relative to one another and handles an edge case around extremely long books like dictionaries and long reference books.

Under KENPC v2.0 authors will be able to earn a maximum of 3,000 Kindle Edition Normalized Pages read per title per customer. We believe this change will result in a more equitable distribution of the KDP Select Global Fund. While this change will impact a fraction of a percent of KDP Select books, you are being notified because you have at least one book enrolled in KDP Select with a KENPC v2.0 over 3,000.

You can find more information about KENPC v2.0 here https://kdp.amazon.com/help?topicId=AI3QMVN4FMTXJ.

Best Regards,
The Kindle Direct Publishing Team

 

[Jeanne Lynn]

Where do look in the dashboard to see your KENPC? We got the email. My son writes very long war novels. One of his novels is 2100 pages and 1.5 million words. I'm guess this is going to hurt.

 

[Rick Gualtieri]

Where do look in the dashboard to see your KENPC? We got the email. My son writes very long war novels. One of his novels is 2100 pages and 1.5 million words. I'm guess this is going to hurt.

At that size, it's almost definitely affected. From your KDP dashboard click on "Promote and Advertise" for the book in question. KENPC count should be near the bottom of the resulting page.

 

[TessOliver]

Yep, looks like they changed the formula. There's been a significant drop in KENPC. Not cool.

 

[Crystal_]

This 3000 limit is such bad timing for me!  Trying to organize a ten novel bundle. We'll probably lose half our pages.

In theory, the new KENPC calculations don't matter much IF everyone is down. We're paid out of a pool. But these seems like a rather transparent attempt to get the page rate up without actually paying us more for our work.

 

[Amanda M. Lee]

I had all my KENPC handy because I just switched to Vellum and wanted to compare KENPC (was using Word before). My new KENPC with Vellum are still the same. From what I can tell, those using Calibre and Jutoh are the ones seeing differences. Can anyone confirm or deny that?

 

[80593]

I had all my KENPC handy because I just switched to Vellum and wanted to compare KENPC (was using Word before). My new KENPC with Vellum are still the same. From what I can tell, those using Calibre and Jutoh are the ones seeing differences. Can anyone confirm or deny that?

I can't speak to Calibre or Jutoh but saw drops of about 12% on all five of my books, using Word. (Edit: and my counts were already low compared to some Vellum-using friends with similar-length books, so I'm annoyed as all get-out.)

 

[Amanda M. Lee]

I can't speak to Calibre or Jutoh but saw drops of about 12% on all five of my books, using Word. (Edit: and my counts were already low compared to some Vellum-using friends with similar-length books, so I'm annoyed as all get-out.)

Over 74 titles I saw only a net gain of 36 pages when I switched from Word to Vellum. It's all very interesting.

 

[Jim Johnson]

I formatted my books in Scrivener and it looks like they got the modest KENP hit. I'm not worried about the rejiggering--I just want to figure out how to get more KU readers.

 

[Quiss]

I took a 20% hit on my books, which are short and single spaced. So what the hell is going on?

At the CURRENT payout per page, a borrow is roughly the same as a sale, or slightly less.  At this 20% ripoff I'm out of KU.  I'm SO DONE with this crap.

 

[80593]

Over 74 titles I saw only a net gain of 36 pages when I switched from Word to Vellum. It's all very interesting.

Mine were always a bit low compared to some others I've talked to. My longest book is 84k, had a KENPC of 442, now down to 392. I haven't been all that fussed about comparing but now I'm aggravated if the gap has only gotten wider, with some people's counts staying the same.