[Guest]

OK, here's what I wish: I wish what happens on the Amazon Boards would stay on the Amazon Boards. Just because they get in a food fight over there, does it have to spill over to here? Sigh...

I'm sorry. Go ahead and delete the whole thing if you want. The only reason I posted about it here is because the thread specifically referenced posts and people on THIS board. I guess I should have kept my mouth shut. Won't happen again.

 

[ricky]

NYCKindleFan, I don't think what Betsy said was personal.  Please don't keep your mouth shut   

 

[ELDogStar]

SOLUTION!

This is the ONLY Kindle related board I read.

Eric

 

[Leslie]

SOLUTION!

This is the ONLY Kindle related board I read.

Eric

Thank you, Eric.

L

 

[Betsy the Quilter]

OK, I've PM'd NYC, but I want to put it on the public record:

Please be sure that I in no way was saying anything about NYC's original post, people post all the time about what's on Amazon's boards.  I was trying to say (apparently poorly)that just because people are FIGHTING about something on Amazon, we should not refight those fights here.  It was the late night slings and arrows that were happening that I was trying to address.

NYC, you're a valued member of the KindleBoards community, no way we want you to stop posting.

Betsy

 

[Susan in VA]

It was the late night slings and arrows that were happening that I was trying to address.

I'll take that as (at least partially) directed at me, and I apologize. It had been a long day.

 

[Betsy the Quilter]

Made even longer by a sick kid, I'm sure! 

All I'll say is that there were several people engaging last night.    I'm glad it settled down.

Did you ever get your paper done?

Betsy

 

[Susan in VA]

Made even longer by a sick kid, I'm sure!

All I'll say is that there were several people engaging last night. I'm glad it settled down.

Did you ever get your paper done?

Betsy

That paper is done, yes. Several more to go. Everything's due at once when the semester is about to end...

The formerly sick kid is happy to be back at school! And yes, there's a chance that that contributed, though she's pretty easygoing even when sick, which happens rarely. Looking back, I think it was a different root cause -- elsewhere, somebody YELLED AT ME FOR MULTIPLE PARAGRAPHS without bothering to actually read any of the posts in the thread, and instead of saying what I really thought, I took a deep breath and answered politely. Later it nagged at me. Alas, the older I get, the less patience I have...

But it's a new day, and there's bread dough rising in the kitchen, and the birds are singing...

 

[pawlaw aka MXCIX]

Hi guys - As one who received a custom cover, I just have to pipe in here, then I'll be silent for a while 

I read the other thread and was disappointed in what was said there by the negative folks.  I love Oberon...I loved them before I received a custom cover and I still love them even though I have requested another custom cover and was told no.  They do what they can when they can and I think it's great.

I just have to say that I'm sorry if my post about my custom cover was frustrating or caused problems for anyone.  I was hoping folks would see it as a preview and be excited for what was to come.  All my postings have been very kindly meant. 

 

[gwen10]

I was so happy to see the custom covers, and can't wait until the red gingko (sp?) is released so I can order one.  I don't mind waiting.  I consider your a beta version.  Preview of great things to come!

 

[pawlaw aka MXCIX]

Thank you...yes, I should use different terminology...beta cover...

 

[luvmy4brats]

Thank you...yes, I should use different terminology...beta cover...

I think there would have been less frustration if it had been presented that way. I'm very happy you were able to get a custom beta cover. It's really beautiful!

 

[pawlaw aka MXCIX]

okey, dokey...in fairness to myself, I have to say that I didn't know I was presenting it incorrectly.  it is difficult to keep up with every conversation on this board...i'm getting better, but i don't have a lot of time.  i think if i were able to read everything here and also on the amazon board, i would know more about how to say or not say things.  it is unfortunate that sometimes folks seem to want to see the negative in posts instead of the positive. (not talking about you, luv)

i read some posts over and over to see the plus side, to put myself in others shoes and see where they may be coming from because i don't have the benefit of seeing them in person.  maybe that's why i don't get to read everything.    i would never survive on the amazon board, that's why i don't go there. 

i would like all who see this to know that if there is ever a post from me that seems not right or negative or whatever, it was not meant that way.

whew...let's go have fun in another thread...

 

[Simplemines]

I can't believe the pettiness in those complaints. A small business has every right to treat favored customers a little differently, and testing new styles in limited production is just common sense. And not only does that person decide that not getting her ideal choice of cover is worth throwing a hissy fit over, she then proceeds to spend what must have been hours on the topic. Must be nice not to have any real problems.

Hmmm. I might agree that a small business has the right to do whatever it wants. But in a small community like Kindle, it might be a really GOOD idea to keep your mouth shut about who you're giving preferences to.

Unless you have a ton of disposable income, an Oberon cover is a significant investment for something you WANT, but you don't NEED (there are lots of choices out there to protect a Kindle.)

Why would a business deliberately antagonize its customers? They may not have meant to, but that's the upshot.

Btw, I say this as someone with no ax to grind. I already have my Oberon K cover (among other Oberon items.) I was fine with the designs and colors I got, all standard.

I do, however, see how people who are really vested in this could be annoyed. Oberon may make some lovely items, but there is more than a touch of flakiness in how the business operates.

Some might think that's a cute eccentricity. Perhaps, but IMHO, not at THESE prices!

 

[Patrizia]

LOL.. I wouldn't say we were kissing cousins but in the past she for some reason has made some comments towards me.. which I indicated.  I admit I would rather keep the peace then not.. I dont have anything personal against her I am just sick of the attacks.

I talked to Don about this and you all saw my response to it.  The boards over there seem to have become more and more hostile which is why I like this place.. I just dont see the need for petty personal discussions that are hurtful and pointless.

Anyway it is what it is, and Oberon stands by it.. I am finding people who whine are always going to find a way.

I also think that we all have different styles of communicating and some click and others don't.  Inflection is so hard on a board, I tend to be business like.. some people see that as rude on that board and it was taken wrong.  So I think it helps to realize what may come off as snide really is not meant to be.

I love that we seem not have that issue here... Love this board... and the more time I spend in that environment the more I appreciate you guys

 

[ELDogStar]

What the heck is an Oberon?

And why would I want to bash one?

Is it sort of like Wack-A-Mole?

Eric

 

[Patrizia]

LOL.. well they are leather so make sure you bring good tools but they are way to expensive to "bash".  you might just want to wrap it around the kindle instead

 

[Neversleepsawink;)]

LOL.. I wouldn't say we were kissing cousins but in the past she for some reason has made some comments towards me.. which I indicated. I admit I would rather keep the peace then not.. I dont have anything personal against her I am just sick of the attacks.

I talked to Don about this and you all saw my response to it. The boards over there seem to have become more and more hostile which is why I like this place.. I just dont see the need for petty personal discussions that are hurtful and pointless.

Anyway it is what it is, and Oberon stands by it.. I am finding people who whine are always going to find a way.

I also think that we all have different styles of communicating and some click and others don't. Inflection is so hard on a board, I tend to be business like.. some people see that as rude on that board and it was taken wrong. So I think it helps to realize what may come off as snide really is not meant to be.

I love that we seem not have that issue here... Love this board... and the more time I spend in that environment the more I appreciate you guys

I read the posts...and think you are great! You did an awesome job!

 

[Susan in VA]

I also think that we all have different styles of communicating and some click and others don't. Inflection is so hard on a board, I tend to be business like.. some people see that as rude on that board and it was taken wrong. So I think it helps to realize what may come off as snide really is not meant to be.

Some of the endless rants on other sites (not specifically referring to the Amazon kerfluffle) would probably have stopped after the first exchange if it had been verbal, accompanied by facial expressions and such. Online communication is so easy to misunderstand.

Although for years I used to dislike using cutesy emoticons in every second sentence, I find myself doing it far more often now just to make absolutely sure that neutral-but-blunt statements are not taken as aggression, or that sarcasm is not taken literally.

Spoiler

Next I'll be drawing hearts over my i's.

 

[Neversleepsawink;)]

Some of the endless rants on other sites (not specifically referring to the Amazon kerfluffle) would probably have stopped after the first exchange if it had been verbal, accompanied by facial expressions and such. Online communication is so easy to misunderstand.

Although for years I used to dislike using cutesy emoticons in every second sentence, I find myself doing it far more often now just to make absolutely sure that neutral-but-blunt statements are not taken as aggression, or that sarcasm is not taken literally.

Spoiler

Next I'll be drawing hearts over my i's.

Me too