Kindle Forum banner

Okay, I think this cover isn't half bad!

1280 Views 16 Replies 15 Participants Last post by  Anotherdreamer
I gave up on graphics, now I'm just trying to tweak photos. Ignore the stamp. Haven't bought it yet, wanted to know if this stunk first.
See less See more
1 - 17 of 17 Posts
I can't tell what the genre is. It doesn't really tell me anything and I have no idea what I'd be getting myself into. Personally, if there were a bunch of books in a row and I couldn't understand at first glance (or at least begin to understand) what the genre might be, I might pass over it.
It looks pretty amateur, sorry.  Also, I can't tell what the genre is.
Oh god!!! Just shoot me now! I can't believe this one sucks too!!! When will some inner kernel of artistic brilliance spring forward and save me from this purgatory of bad book covers! Or, I could be a little less dramatic and just hire someone. That would probably be the sane thing to do.
I think it's an improvement over your last effort. Maybe increase the size of the door, make the title bigger, make the author name larger and put it in all caps. You might also lighten the whole thing so it shows up better in thumbnail.

Here's sort of an idea of what I mean:

See less See more
I think if you can let us in on which genre it is, we might be able to steer you in the right direction. Your other book is urban fantasy so I'm assuming this is too. If you really like the door for your cover, I'd suggest getting other stock (perhaps an archway, or another doorway into which it can be inserted) so you can composite. Right now it just looks like one piece of stock on matte black. It needs more visually going on, preferably something that would scream urban fantasy. The cover image right now says to me: Main character battles a secret religious order.

However, don't focus entirely on the images. You also need to consider typography. Font selection should never be taken for granted. Times New Roman isn't cutting it; in fact I'd suggest never using that font ever, including and especially in the interior of the print edition. There are other beautiful fonts you can choose from, not just serifs but also sans-serifs or display fonts that might suit the title better. Head on over to fontsquirrel.com and download a bunch of fonts; all of those are free for commercial use. Then just play around till you find something that feels right.

I'm quite the amateur at cover design myself though, so you might want to see what the pros have to say; some excellent cover designers weigh in on these threads pretty frequently. If you can afford a cover artist that might be your best bet, but you can also save some money by going with good premades. The book I'm bringing out next had me stumped forever on a cover because a premade was totally out of the question and I can't afford a pro (well a pro who would build to order, that is; the premade artists are no less talented), but I finally managed to pull something together that seems to work after smashing enough ideas together. It felt like it took forever; I hope your quest for the right cover goes a lot more smoothly than mine!
See less See more
I think a good cover it's not just about a good photo, but about doing something with that photo. What Dara did is a good example. Huge difference with the original cover.

If money is an issue, there are a few good designers on Fiverr who would put together a very nice cover for $5. I'm not saying those covers can compete with $200 covers, but they still look nice and not homemade.
Well, it suggests fantasy to me, and perhaps something medieval. The main problem is not the door (though it isn't particularly interesting) but the black space around it. Can you get the door to fit the cover and alter the color, as Dara did. Then I think you might have something that's okay, but it certainly doesn't scream out to be bought.
I would think it being a horror story in a medieval setting or magic/fantasy story in a medieval setting. An added line above the title or under the author name stating what genre it is would help a little.

I don't think it is that bad, I've seen worse. I like the one Dara made.
A. Rosaria said:
I would think it being a horror story in a medieval setting or magic/fantasy story in a medieval setting. An added line above the title or under the author name stating what genre it is would help a little.

I don't think it is that bad, I've seen worse. I like the one Dara made.
^^this^^^ it says 'historical' to me.
Dara England said:
I think it's an improvement over your last effort. Maybe increase the size of the door, make the title bigger, make the author name larger and put it in all caps. You might also lighten the whole thing so it shows up better in thumbnail.

Here's sort of an idea of what I mean:

Better - bigger everything and pulls the detail out that was hidden away.
Dara England said:
I think it's an improvement over your last effort. Maybe increase the size of the door, make the title bigger, make the author name larger and put it in all caps. You might also lighten the whole thing so it shows up better in thumbnail.

Here's sort of an idea of what I mean:

That cover looks lovely.
The basic problem is that you've combined a title that doesn't offer a clue to the genre or subject, with an image which also doesn't offer any clues. That's apparent from the number of interpretations from commenters. The change in font and how the image is handled make a huge difference in the cover's attractiveness, but the genre is still a mystery. This might be something to think about when you choose a title for your next book.
If you're determined enough, I think you can make a go of this.

I too spent a bunch of time on this board being told all my covers sucked. (So I feel your pain.)

I'd step away from it for a bit. Maybe a few days. Try to think of something else. Ignore all cover-making thoughts of any kind and get your head clear, because you're in danger of meltdown stage. :p)

Then start trying some copying. Pick a cover and try to recreate it. Look up photoshop tutorials to achieve certain effects, find the same kind of fonts, the same kind of picture, etc. etc. The more you do stuff like that for fun, the more likely you'll be able to sort of absorb through osmosis what makes a good cover.

Anyway, this is sort of what I did. And my covers still have problems, but they are better. I, too, could hire someone, but I LOVE making covers. It's my favorite thing besides writing the book. And no one gets to take that away from me. No one! :)
Dara England said:
I think it's an improvement over your last effort. Maybe increase the size of the door, make the title bigger, make the author name larger and put it in all caps. You might also lighten the whole thing so it shows up better in thumbnail.

Here's sort of an idea of what I mean:

My recommendation: use this cover and list the book as Keepers (An Urban Fantasy) or Keepers (An Epic Fantasy) or whatever.

I know covers are frustrating. What you're running into in your design attempts is the fact that being artistic isn't enough; design is a profession that includes a lot nit-picky technical knowledge about typography, color theory, use of space, etc. However artistic one may be naturally, it's not possible to replicate the knowledge side of things without the training. Just cause you're naturally talented in math doesn't mean you can hang up your shingle as an engineer and build safe bridges, eh? Indie authors really expect too much of themselves, I think, when they try to produce professional looking design right off the bat. So be kind to yourself, Anotherdreamer! There's a lot to learn. It takes time! Or ... support indie designers. They deserve a piece of the pie, too. :)
Dara, yours is really nice! I might have to steal it and do the added caption like mentioned. I feel like I should pay you something for your good work!
The genre is the next problem. It's not exactly an Urban Fantasy. It's more like an Urban Scifi. Is that label even used? Yes, I do think I should take a small break before my brain completely explodes. But I do really love what Dara did. I think I'm going to try to add a caption and run with that.
1 - 17 of 17 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top