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I dislike major cliffhangers at the end of a book, but I don't mind minor ones in a series.

I tend to end a number of chapters that way, particularly if I'm changing story arcs within the book.

In my own series, the major fate of the characters is known, but they have entered into a new potential scenario where the outcome is unknown.
If that's the best way to end the book, do it. Just be prepared for the reader hate if anyone reads it. However, while they will complain, they will also buy the next book. So...don't worry too much. Just do whatever the story requires.
Tim, what I think you should really do is ...
There’s a very fine (and, unfortunately, often crossed) line between ending on a cliffhanger and ending without resolution.

There’s nothing wrong, IMO, with ending on a cliffhanger that leads into the next stage of a series’ larger story arc, but if the primary conflict of the current story is unresolved at the end of the book, you are likely going to have some unhappy readers and less-than-stellar reviews.

You say that you hate cliffhangers yourself, so all I can suggest is that you take a step back and ask yourself how YOU would react to the ending you’re considering writing.
Mark at Marble City said:
Tim, what I think you should really do is ...
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I tend to mix it up, depends if I intend revisiting the story at a later day with some kind of sequel. :)
Mel Comley said:
I tend to mix it up, depends if I intend revisiting the story at a later day with some kind of sequel. :)
Definitely more to come. I'm plotted out to about six books. Currently on three. First two had what Carina has said, resolution of story arc with unfinished business.

The interesting question here is, do I go for a longer book than the first 2 and resolve, with unfinished business, or do I cliffhang and in the process, turn it from a 3 book plot arc, into a four book plot arc - with three more books of plot left to come.

My first book ended in a perfect place for it. The second ended sooner than I'd planned, but that part of the story resolved there. If I cliff hang, I can begin the next book with a gut wrenching action sequence and then spend more time with the resolution that I will want to here and now in the current book.

It seems with each new book, my learning curve remains steep. :)
Annie B said:
However, while they will complain, they will also buy the next book.
Not all of us! ;) There's always an exception to every rule.
:D

Betsy
carinasanfey said:
I think it's important to have both some resolution and some cliffhangeriness - leave the reader feeling satisfied that they've read a complete story, but also give them reason to read the next one. Some popular examples of this would be:

1) Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone - he thwarts Quirrell/Voldemort and saves the day (resolution), but he knows there's something major Dumbledore isn't telling him about his connection with Voldemort (cliffhanger).

2) The Hunger Games - she survives the games and emerges victorious (resolution), but she hasn't got a flipping clue what's going to happen with the whole Gale/Peeta thing (cliffhanger).
This!

I've read books that ended with a feeling of 'finished-ness' and yet there were still questions flying around in my brain so I really looked forward to the next book to find out about those things. Sometimes they're minor things, sometimes more major. I've also read books that seemed to just stop. . . . if they were going for a cliffhanger, they failed.

I think it works best if there's a well defined end to the longer arc . . . . HP was going to be 7 books period. So you could read each with some confidence that questions would be answered at some point -- even as you realize, reading each subsequent book, that new questions would come up as well. But it worked. Game of Thrones, on the other hand, for me, left NOTHING resolved at the end of the first book -- except the death of the most likable, sympathetic character of the hundred (it seemed) I'd met. Sure, lots of questions were left unanswered, but I didn't care about getting those answers so I didn't bother to go further in the series. Especially as there's no confidence it will actually END. ::) (Never was into soap operas. ;) )

Generally: if there's a true cliff hanger, it better be a darn good book to start with or else it's not going to get ME to read the next one. I think that's the danger. I think some feel like 'cliffhanger' will pull people into the next book. And it might -- but only if they care At ALL about the characters and story in the first place! :eek: A mediocre story with flat characters could end in the biggest cliffhanger ever devised -- and a lot of readers will say, "meh, let 'em fall off the cliff." But if you have a great story and characters that readers are interested in, you can do almost anything. Though you do risk ire if there's not some semblance of resolution, as carina says. :)
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Here's my thing:

I've inadvertently built in an expectation, and progressively built an answer to it. The 2nd book ended with a battle that went a lot easier than it could have. And where I'm at in the current book, the reader is coming to believe that although whats being prepared will come too late, the force accumulated will win, and as time passes, more and more easily.

The obvious ending to this book, goes like this:

"We are so scr*wed!"

It will be totally unexpected and that is without actually telling the reader what the problem is, but leaving them to imagine it.

Now do I leave that as a chapter ending, or a book ending? Thats my dilemma.

By the time I get to the this point, my book will be about the size of the previous one.
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Make the book the size it needs to be to tell the story.  Don't cut it off because of an arbitrary measure.  Looking at Harry Potter on my shelf, it looks like the books get progressively larger.

Betsy
Betsy the Quilter said:
Make the book the size it needs to be to tell the story. Don't cut it off because of an arbitrary measure. Looking at Harry Potter on my shelf, it looks like the books get progressively larger.

Betsy
Exactly . . . . .
Betsy the Quilter said:
Make the book the size it needs to be to tell the story. Don't cut it off because of an arbitrary measure. Looking at Harry Potter on my shelf, it looks like the books get progressively larger.

Betsy
Yes, I made that observation some time ago.

Your probably right, but the cliffhanger is so, so, seductive at the moment. ;D
My latest book (the sequel to Echoes) ends with a cliffhanger. Interestingly, I added it because I felt the original ending was too happy and resolved and I wanted to build more suspense for the third book in the series.

However, I should note the cliffhanger in question doesn't involve my protagonist in any state of impending death or doom. It's just an ominous preamble to the next book that hints of conflicts to come. And it comes after all the main plot threads on the book are resolved.

I'm sure some people will still hate it, but it is what it is.
Adrian Howell said:
There's a very fine (and, unfortunately, often crossed) line between ending on a cliffhanger and ending without resolution.
This. The plot of the book should have some resolution (else it's really not a full story in itself), but I see nothing wrong with cliffhangers that let the readers know what will need to be resolved in the next book.
It's a question, I think, of the sizes of arcs. If there's an overarching arc, either character or plot, that will be carried over the entire length of the story through multiple books, then it's fine to cliffhang on that arc, as long as there are smaller arcs, one or more to each book, that will be resolved at the conclusion of the book. If there's no great arc to support the books from first to last, then cliffhangers on the individual book arcs are likely to put readers off.
I agree with Roby (as always) and Carina. Currently I am writing a romance trilogy and the cliffhanger ending is expected while, at the same time, the first element of  the "overarching" character development arc has been satisfied.

I hate cliffhangers if it's a book that I don't know ahead of time will have a sequel or if a story ends with too many unanswered questions.

Right now, readers seem to want series of books and to me it feels like a reversion to the earliest novels that were written in usually three volumes each of which ends on an important character or plot note.
I wonder if readers are more accepting of cliffhangers if a book features multiple POVs and so many characters / plot threads (think Game of Thrones) that wrapping them up at the end of each book would be impossible. I'm going to be facing this problem soon, and I hope my readers will forgive me.  :-[
"I wonder if readers are more accepting of cliffhangers if a book features multiple POVs and so many characters / plot threads (think Game of Thrones) that wrapping them up at the end of each book would be impossible. I'm going to be facing this problem soon, and I hope my readers will forgive me.  :-["

I agree with you 100%.

If it helps, I forgive you!

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