[Jack C. Nemo]

KOBO has both paranormal erotica and taboo erotica categories. Taboo appears to allow full incest and zoophilia. PI and tentacles should be just fine there.

 

[Guest]

Question -

If your book(s) have been removed, will you receive royalties for copies already sold?
Or will Amazon freeze the money for violating TOS (terms of service)?

 

[D.L. Shutter]

Taboo appears to allow full incest and zoophilia. PI and tentacles should be just fine there.

I've never actually checked out their romance sub-categories before you mentioned it. Holy $#!t! Anything goes over there?

 

[KMatthew]

I don't know how Smashwords is categorizing me over there but my sales are nonexistent at Kobo. If I went direct, I'd at least have some control.

I'm just now seeing sales on Kobo, though nothing to brag about. Oddly enough, all of the titles I have direct with them sell 0 copies per month. I currently have about 20 titles direct with them. The others are through D2D. The ones I have through D2D sell decently. Not sure if there's a difference in going direct with them and going through a distributor. I just find it strange that my titles that are direct through them don't sell, while my titles through the distributor do. =/

 

[swolf]

I seems at though 'babysitter' isn't one of the words they're blocking, since my latest with that word in the title sailed through Amazon publishing in record time. 

 

[D.L. Shutter]

Was thinking this the other day while perusing the Kobo>Romance>Erotica>Taboo section for the first time.

If Zon is intent on getting out of (or heavily de-prioritizing) their hardcore, taboo erotica business, Kobo (along with the beleaguered B&N) seems more than happy to expand and meet that exploding customer base. Right now their looking for any minuscule ***** in the Zon market share armor to drive a spear into. And I would like to think the Seattle tech-gods can appreciate, more than anyone, how FAST online customers can and WILL migrate from one outlet to another to get their dirty fix on.

Maybe it's something Ms. Kitt can mention in a polite and professional manner in her pending correspondence to Zon.

 

[RaeC]

Anyone planning on doing any monster erotica now that we're around Halloween, and seeing if it gets past the review process?

 

[Terrence OBrien]

And I would like to think the Seattle tech-gods can appreciate, more than anyone, how FAST online customers can and WILL migrate from one outlet to another to get their dirty fix on.And I would like to think the Seattle tech-gods can appreciate, more than anyone, how FAST online customers can and WILL migrate from one outlet to another to get their dirty fix on.

Of course they appreciate it. I suspect they know far better than anyone here. They know those customers will go somewhere else. They accept it.

 

[Honeybun]

Update:

I finally did get an email response back from Amazon after about my 3rd inquiry as to what about my story was breaking the rules.  But... shame on me... I didn't even realize that I'd gotten back something different than the form responses I'd gotten before.  Something else that is different is that the person (thank you, Avery B. ! ) also changed the status of my story from blocked to draft without me even asking--enabling me to go ahead and make changes.

The problem with my story?  The title.  Apparently, the title of Daddy Substitute 1 is being deemed as against the content guidelines.

Hmmmmmm...  that is the first in a series, all carrying the same name, and none of the others have been tagged as bad.

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF WHEN I CHANGE MY TITLE, WILL I LOSE MY STAR RATING  I actually do have some reviews and they are all (but one) positive.

And, any suggestions as to a new name?  He's a teacher; she's a student.  He's sort of her Daddy Substitute, just as the title implies.

 

[swolf]

No, you don't lose your star ratings, reviews, or also boughts if you change the title.

 

[daringnovelist]

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF WHEN I CHANGE MY TITLE, WILL I LOSE MY STAR RATING I actually do have some reviews and they are all (but one) positive.

I'm pretty sure that if all you're doing it changing the title, nothing else will change -- the customers who have already bought it will still see the "Amazon Instant Update" alert at the top of the page and everything. They treat that like a correction.

It's only if you unpublish it and re-upload as a new book that should get you a problem with losing stars and such. (It goes by ASIN, I think.)

Camille

 

[Amy Morrel]

And, any suggestions as to a new name? He's a teacher; she's a student. He's sort of her Daddy Substitute, just as the title implies.

Perhaps use the classic phrase "Father Figure", unless you think that it might trigger the same censorship.

A.Morrel

 

[a_g]

Perhaps use the classic phrase "Father Figure", unless you think that it might trigger the same censorship.

A.Morrel

So far, my 'Father Figure' hasn't been hit by an Adult Tag or ban. Two titles that have the word 'sex' in them have, though. They now are Adult.

*crosses fingers*

 

[KMatthew]

I got another e-mail yesterday blocking 3 more of my titles. I had thought this was over already. Guess not.

 

[MindyWilde]

I got another e-mail yesterday blocking 3 more of my titles. I had thought this was over already. Guess not.

Really sorry to hear that. I still cross my fingers daily hoping that I won't wake up to that message again

 

[Daizie]

I just got an email blocking 10 of my titles. I wrote back and asked them to put the books in draft so I can make changes. Don't panic if this happens to you. Just politely ask to get the books into draft then clean the items they listed up.

One piece of good news is that in this email they listed what needed to be fixed. Most of my books need title, description and cover fixed. But some only need the description fixed. They don't tell you what needs to be fixed in the titles, but it's obviously the word "Daddy" in my books.

Before people start grumbling about how much this sucks, remember- Amazon is a store and can choose to stock whatever they want. Even though it's frustrating, we need to work within their system.

At least they are somewhat giving direction on what needs to be fixed now. It's weird they are outright blocking books lately instead of just sticking them in the dungeon. There are tons of Daddy books. Are they going to block them all?

 

[Victoria Champion]

I just came across this article on dailymail.co.uk. Prepare yourself. Also, NSFW. Begin scandal in 3...2...1...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2452731/Amazon-Kindle-Cashing-depraved-literature-glorifies-rape-incest-child-abuse-bestiality.html

 

[KMatthew]

I just came across this article on dailymail.co.uk. Prepare yourself. Also, NSFW. Begin scandal in 3...2...1...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2452731/Amazon-Kindle-Cashing-depraved-literature-glorifies-rape-incest-child-abuse-bestiality.html

I think the only reason Amazon has allowed such titles for so long is because there's a big cash pull. I don't think that people who hate this stuff realize how huge of a market there is for it. I've only recently been dabbling in the Daddy stuff, but sales were pretty impressive.

I can understand where lines should be drawn, but honestly, when it comes to step-cest (where the two people aren't even really related), barely legal (18+), and bestiality in the sense where the person is a shape shifter, I don't really see what the big deal is.

 

[brie.mcgill]

Ugh... That article. Ugh. All I have to say is...

For some strange reason, pornography and electronics are inseparable. This person who wrote the article sounds surprised.

Yes, that stuff shouldn't come up when looking for children's Halloween costumes. But the bias in that article is frightening. More frightening that two imaginary step-characters getting it on. (So frightening that I feel the call to write yet another X-rated dystopian. )

Did Amazon really go to such great lengths to make money from the ebook world, only to later turn and forsake a cash cow that will give its competitors a huge edge?

Anyway, I'm not worried. Where there's a will (or a willy?), there's a way. People clearly won't stop creating or consuming porn.

Back to work. My 157k Gothic alien sex romance needs polishing.

 

[KMatthew]

I just got another e-mail from them, blocking 4 more titles. That's two e-mails from them in one day. Crazy. I am finally at the point where I'll e-mail them tomorrow to unblock the titles so I can rework them. I'll also be stripping excerpts from all of my blurbs, which I've been threatening to do since this whole thing began but have been too lazy to actually get to. It seems like anything naughty in your blurb is a big no-no now.