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Alright, So as a college student i've been looking at the DX through bifocals. on one hand I'd like that benefit of putting my text books on a nice big screen. On the other hand, well,

Items: $489.00
Shipping & Handling: $6.98

Total Before Tax: $495.98
Estimated Tax:* $42.16
Order Total: $538.14

I'm sorry, adding 100$ or more to that for a text book I can find used for 60$? I can't seem to swallow that, despite the really cool accelerometer features, I'd have to say that Eros has won again. Also, how does one protect a large screen like that? What are your guys' thoughts, do you think that amazon has over looked the fact that some of us have sales tax? Not to mention that's with 3 day shipping.
 

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You have to pay shipping?  That doesn't sound right. 

One year's textbooks would probably pay for it.  The question is, how many textbooks that you would use are available now?

 

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The other question is, how much of a discount will the textbooks have if they are in Kindle format? 

We've already seen issues with pricing for regular books on the Kindle, so I cannot help but be a little skeptical as to whether or not there really will be a big enough discount for textbooks to make it worth the money. 

Only time will tell, though.
 

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mwvickers said:
The other question is, how much of a discount will the textbooks have if they are in Kindle format?

We've already seen issues with pricing for regular books on the Kindle, so I cannot help but be a little skeptical as to whether or not there really will be a big enough discount for textbooks to make it worth the money.

Only time will tell, though.
Good question. I'll revise my earlier post to two years for the DX to pay for itself for students.

The price of textbooks is outrageous, anyway, and now they are putting out revised editions faster than the students can keep up. That cuts down on the number of used books the students can purchase.
 

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Gertie Kindle 'Turn to Page 390' said:
Good question. I'll revise my earlier post to two years for the DX to pay for itself for students.

The price of textbooks is outrageous, anyway, and now they are putting out revised editions faster than the students can keep up. That cuts down on the number of used books the students can purchase.
Okay, here's the price so far for my books

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Thats so far this year >> and yes, Thats 3 day shipping, that's at the time of check out. I just copied it right over ><
 

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Okay, here's the price so far for my books

160
140
106
97
130
179

Thats so far this year >> and yes, Thats 3 day shipping, that's at the time of check out. I just copied it right over ><
As I said ... outrageous. When I went to college, we could expect to buy used books at half price and sell them back at 1/4 price. An edition of a book stayed on the shelves for years. I can probably count on the fingers of one hand the number of new books I had to buy.

Then there's this little gem.


$8,038.99 ... and that's Part 4.
 

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I'm in Washington state so I had to pay that sales tax, too. It's the price of living in this state. On big ticket items, it can make you pause. (Although I'm glad we have sales tax and not income tax.)
 

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Could be Arkansas, with both.
 

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Gertie Kindle 'Turn to Page 390' said:
As I said ... outrageous. When I went to college, we could expect to buy used books at half price and sell them back at 1/4 price. An edition of a book stayed on the shelves for years. I can probably count on the fingers of one hand the number of new books I had to buy.

Then there's this little gem.


$8,038.99 ... and that's Part 4.
But you can get that one on kindle for 6400.00 thus saving 1600.00 which easily covers the cost of the kindle LOL ;D
 

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yeah. . . . they pay YOU to live in Alaska.. . . .:D

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Interesting piece on this very topic at ZDNET:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=17630&tag=nl.e539 (quoted below)

Amazon unveiled its much hyped Kindle DX, an e-book with a 9.7-inch screen designed to raise a ruckus in the textbook market, but delivered a $489 curve ball that seriously alters the return on investment calculation for academia.

On the surface, the argument for the Kindle DX (Techmeme) in academia holds somewhat but that price tag makes the case much harder for your average student. Amazon is asking students to learn a little about total cost of ownership over three years before they pick up a book. What is this? Enterprise software?

The Kindle DX runs you $489 as an upfront investment and the average student spends $488 on new and used course materials a year. In a nutshell, Amazon is asking the average student to fork over more money for the Kindle and then buy the textbooks too.

Also see: Special Report: Kindle DX

Gallery: Amazon Kindle DX revealed

Add it up and the average student is losing money on the Kindle DX in that first year. Let's say Amazon can halve your textbook costs to $250 a year you'll still be shelling out nearly $750 in year one.

Over two years, a student will still be behind on the Kindle DX return. Going the paper route on textbooks yields a two-year cost of $976. But the Kindle still runs you $13 more over two years.

In year three, that student will start saving money via the Kindle ($1,464 on paper textbooks vs. $1,239). The big caveat here: I didn't include the used book market and assumed that the Kindle DX still functions well. Another big assumption: All the textbooks you'll need will be available on the Kindle (not likely). If Amazon can cut a student's textbook costs to $100 a year, the case for the Kindle DX would obviously look better.

In a nutshell, Amazon is trying to make a four-year total cost of ownership case to an audience that just doesn't have the attention span. So-called "super seniors," or those on the five and six year college plans, may find some return.

As Andrew Nusca noted:

Books at college can run up to $400 per semester. The Kindle DX is intended to last longer than that, of course, but this is under the assumption that the student won't break or damage the device quickly and all a prospective student's material is available through Amazon's service.

What happens to the return on your Kindle DX if it gets damaged during a close beer pong match?

So what caused Amazon's big disconnect?

Simply put, it is Amazon's love affair with Whispernet, its 3G download network.

In Amazon's statement about the Kindle DX, the company boasts:

Just like Kindle, Kindle DX customers automatically take advantage of Amazon Whispernet to wirelessly shop the Kindle Store, download or receive new content in less than 60 seconds, and read from their library-all without a PC, Wi-Fi hot spot, or syncing. Amazon still pays for the wireless connectivity on Kindle DX so books can be downloaded in less than 60 seconds-with no monthly fees, data plans, or service contracts.

Who cares? The Kindle DX is tailored for students that happen to have Wi-Fi in every campus corner. This miscalculation means Amazon has overpriced its big Kindle-to pay for wireless service-and may leave growth on the table. A cheaper Kindle DX that only uses Wi-Fi is the student ticket. Amazon missed the mark.

Remember this chart detailing where your textbook dollar went?


Now you can include costs for Whispernet.
 

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OH, and let's not forget the COVER!!!  That's another, what, $50 dawlas?  Some serious OCD would start to kick in if I owned that hunk of a device.  "NO! Don't touch, professor!  Can't you see that your fingerprints will damage the device?  Here, I have an extra pair of rubber gloves.  DOH!  Dr. Johnson, don't do that.  Hold it this way, so you won't drop it.  Mary, stop breathing hard over it!  Too many people staring and breathing over my Kindle can damage the screen.  Have you ever heard of the Lasceaux Caves?  Well, look it up!  Okay, guys, that's it!  Step away from the DX.  I have to clean it now."   :p  
 

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ZD net needs to get a clue. Even though the DX is larger and is being marketed to students doesn't mean it's a requirement for a student to have one. They act like the thing should be free for students. Or pay for itself. I want one and I'm not a college student.  BTW, I paid 400.00 for my K1 because I bought it before the price reduction. I don't see the current price being that outragous since it does have more feature that K1 and it's larger, which for me is a benefit. I don't need a pocket reader, I already have 2.

ETA: I do not want a kindle that only works with wifi TYVM.
 

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Rasputina said:
ZD net needs to get a clue. Even though the DX is larger and is being marketed to students doesn't mean it's a requirement for a student to have one. They act like the thing should be free for students. Or pay for itself. I want one and I'm not a college student. BTW, I paid 400.00 for my K1 because I bought it before the price reduction. I don't see the current price being that outragous since it does have more feature that K1 and it's larger, which for me is a benefit. I don't need a pocket reader, I already have 2.

ETA: I do not want a kindle that only works with wifi TYVM.
agreed
 

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OH, and let's not forget the COVER!!! That's another, what, $50 dawlas? Some serious OCD would start to kick in if I owned that hunk of a device. "NO! Don't touch, professor! Can't you see that your fingerprints will damage the device? Here, I have an extra pair of rubber gloves. DOH! Dr. Johnson, don't do that. Hold it this way, so you won't drop it. Mary, stop breathing hard over it! Too many people staring and breathing over my Kindle can damage the screen. Have you ever heard of the Lasceaux Caves? Well, look it up! Okay, guys, that's it! Step away from the DX. I have to clean it now." :p
Don't buy a cover. Buy a cattle prod to protect your investment. :D
 

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I didn't agree with everything ZDNET said, but I thought there were some good points in there and the ROI is definitely something many people will have to think about.  It's something I considered before I purchased my K1.  I could see a WiFi, non Whispernet version in the future if it's at a lower price point.

Betsy
 

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The ZDnet article focused on the DX for students. . . .an assumption made is that the ONLY content students would want the DX for is textbooks. But, as we've learned from college students who are members here at KB, there are a lot of other ways the Kindle that can be a big help with their studies. Harvey's done a blog entry based on Scheherezade's post in another thread: http://www.kboards.com/blog/

And if the students do happen to want to read other things than just text books, well, there are a lot of other books, newspapers, and magazines available.

So, I think there are some intangible costs that need to be considered. Will the DX be the best thing for every college student? Obviously, the answer is "No". But, might it be a good, even excellent, choice for many. I'd say the answer there has to be "Yes".

Ann
 
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