Ah! You had me going for a second there. Got all defensive!Alain Gomez said:Wait, I'm confused... do you still moderate forums? In my humble opinion, that would be a tough job. I'm not sure how people do it. But for the record, I deeply appreciate all the moderators here. Since my opinion is the only one that really matters, I always feel very entitled to it. With respect to everyone who reads this, of course.
I just saw this phrase on kindleboards today! The thread was shut down. Looks like you know what you're talking about!mashadutoit said:When they say: "That is your opinion, and you are entitled to it."
They really mean: "You are wrong. Please keep your opinions to yourself."
That is so much more eloquent than the free speech defense!MichelleR said:As someone with a little experience of my own in this area, I always loved the allegation that any attempt to keep people from full out war was the first step toward totalitarianism.
Very true! I forgot about that one.JRTomlin said:When they say:
"I hope this doesn't sound sexist but"
You can bet a fair amount of money, it is. You'll absolutely win.
There are a number of permutations of that (racist, homophobic, etc) and I guarantee the same rule applies.
Good advice. The trick is to notice your own disclaimers through the red haze of your own irritation!lpking said:There's a general rule to be extrapolated here.
If you have to type something that looks like a disclaimer before you express your opinion, or your feelings/thoughts about someone else's opinion, get up, walk away from the computer, and make a cuppa. If you still really need to type what you originally planned to type, think about the poor moderator!
Oh yes. The outraged accusations of censorship...MichelleR said:As someone with a little experience of my own in this area, I always loved the allegation that any attempt to keep people from full out war was the first step toward totalitarianism.
That one hasn't (yet) gotten to me, but I used to cringe when "whatever" became all the rage, and now it's "It is what it is" -- both expressions that don't actually mean anything (like "just sayin'"?) and tend to irrationally irritate me.MichelleR said:I see "just sayin'" as weasel words. Probably because it was a comedy staple of the 80s and 90s to point out that people used the phrase to distance themselves from an insult. It acts in place of "don't shoot the messenger," but asks that you ignore that they're also the author of the message.
That is actually quite an interesting issue. Does the forum "belong" to it's creator, or to the members? Is it like inviting a group of people to your house - in which case they would be rude to complain about the music you play or the curtains you've chosen - or is it more like a "clubhouse" that nobody owns but is a communal space?Tam said:I'm a member of a forum about a subject I love and really like most of the other members (which is why I continue going there.) The owner/chief moderator makes a lot of snarky comments himself, often mildly sexist. Many people have argued with him - to their own peril because his view is that it's his forum and his rules. He does have a team of moderators who do a good job, but he has to occasionally exercise his ego. The people who stay on the forum just deal with it and those who don't like it either leave on their own or get banned. He does have a point in that he is the one making it all available to everyone for free.
Since the forurm "owner" is paying for the web hosting, possibly paying for the software, and put in the time to set things up and promote it, I think it's fair to say he owns it. He therefore has the right to run it pretty much as he wants, within whatever legal restrictions there may be on harassment and similar issues. But what one has "the right to do" and what is "right to do" are not the same things.mashadutoit said:That is actually quite an interesting issue. Does the forum "belong" to it's creator, or to the members? Is it like inviting a group of people to your house - in which case they would be rude to complain about the music you play or the curtains you've chosen - or is it more like a "clubhouse" that nobody owns but is a communal space?
I suppose this would depend on the context. For example - I've participated in some forums which are hosted by a specific author, and is sort of about them and their personality. In that case, I can understand that it would be a case of "if you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." But in this case, it sounds like a pity that the community is at the mercy of a rather immature individual!