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Fantasy Maps in Vellum?

4.7K views 13 replies 8 participants last post by  SugarBear57  
#1 ·
Hi all,

I'm new here. Just beginning my self-publishing journey. I am considering purchasing Vellum software to format my ebooks and print, but I am curious if the program is capable of having an image (such as a fantasy map) that spreads across two pages. I've been playing around with the software and can only get an image as large as about half of one page.

Anyone done something larger?

Love Vellum so far, but don't want to buy software this expensive if it can't do everything I need it to.
 
#2 ·
Hey, nice to see you on kboards. I briefly fiddled with Vellum when I was considering it for my book formatting, and I remember having the same problem. Others might know some trick to accomplish this, but what I eventually did was redo my map into two portrait sized halves, rather than one long landscape. Looks nice in the print version and I think it works out for the ebook as well. You can click on the look inside for The Crimson Queen if you want to see.
 
#3 ·
AlecHutson said:
Hey, nice to see you on kboards. I briefly fiddled with Vellum when I was considering it for my book formatting, and I remember having the same problem. Others might know some trick to accomplish this, but what I eventually did was redo my map into two portrait sized halves, rather than one long landscape. Looks nice in the print version and I think it works out for the ebook as well. You can click on the look inside for The Crimson Queen if you want to see.
Nice map Alec :)
 
#5 ·
AlecHutson said:
Hey, nice to see you on kboards. I briefly fiddled with Vellum when I was considering it for my book formatting, and I remember having the same problem. Others might know some trick to accomplish this, but what I eventually did was redo my map into two portrait sized halves, rather than one long landscape. Looks nice in the print version and I think it works out for the ebook as well. You can click on the look inside for The Crimson Queen if you want to see.
That's a nice map. I've been looking around at map options. If you don't mind sharing, how much did the map cost you?
 
#6 ·
AlecHutson said:
Hey, nice to see you on kboards. I briefly fiddled with Vellum when I was considering it for my book formatting, and I remember having the same problem. Others might know some trick to accomplish this, but what I eventually did was redo my map into two portrait sized halves, rather than one long landscape. Looks nice in the print version and I think it works out for the ebook as well. You can click on the look inside for The Crimson Queen if you want to see.
Nice map Alec!

I still need to check out the Crimson Queen one of these days. = )
 
#7 ·
AlecHutson said:
Hey, nice to see you on kboards. I briefly fiddled with Vellum when I was considering it for my book formatting, and I remember having the same problem. Others might know some trick to accomplish this, but what I eventually did was redo my map into two portrait sized halves, rather than one long landscape. Looks nice in the print version and I think it works out for the ebook as well. You can click on the look inside for The Crimson Queen if you want to see.
Thanks Alec. I love how the Queen map turned out in the ebook. Out of curiosity, did you split the map in another software or through a typesetter?
 
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Vale said:
That's a nice map. I've been looking around at map options. If you don't mind sharing, how much did the map cost you?
It was around 150 USD, I think. I searched Deviant Art for 'black and white fantasy maps' and contacted the artist of the maps I liked best. Expensive, I know, but I kind of feel that a nice map is a necessity if you're writing about adventures spread across a sprawling realm.
 
#13 ·
I've seen maps in print split across two pages. Occasionally they turned the map 90 degrees so it would fit on a single page. It's kind of hard to squeeze a detailed map onto a small piece of paper in a smaller-format book. To spread the image across two pages, you have to create two separate images, one for each side of the image. To do that, just open the image in a graphics editing program like Pixelmator or Photoshop and copy one half of the image into a new image and then the other half of the image into another new image. Each of these new images will go on facing pages to show the map split across two pages.

An ebook is a different matter. An ebook is essentially a web site. Each chapter of an ebook is an individual HTML page. As such, the text displayed behaves exactly the same way the text on a web page would behave in the web browser you use on your computer. This also includes how it will handle images placed inline. Grab the edge of this web browser window and shrink and grow the page back and forth. You'll see the text flow to match the new margins and the images jump to try and fit in the window.

This is why ebooks (and webpages) are referred to as flowable text.

While text can be stretched and cut fairly easily and automatically, images cannot. An image can be shrunk to fit on a page, but the programs running on ebook readers are not sophisticated enough to cut an image in half automatically. Just as in print, you will have to split the image. But ebooks only portray one page at a time, so the reader will only see one half of the map and then the other half. It might be wiser in this case to rotate the image 90 degrees so it can be displayed in its entirely on a single page. The reader can then hold the ebook reader sideways to study the map and, if the ebook reader has this function, expand to zoom in on a particular feature on the map.

Do NOT have any text elements on the same page with the map image. If the user decides to increase the font size, the letters will push the image to the next page. That would cause problems with your layout. If you absolutely must have words with the image, then edit the image to include the text in the image itself.

In theory, you could use SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics) to generate your image in an ebook. But the problem with that is the ebook reading devices do not handle SVG images in a consistent manner. In fact, they barely support it. I have successfully embedded SVG images into ebooks, but the results were less than satisfactory as different ebook readers rendered the image differently. SVG images hold a lot of promise for customizing the look of an ebook, but only if the manufacturers of ebook readers step in and clean up the code they use for handling SVG images.